There is a very little chance that the new films will tamper the post-ROTJ EU I like the most (i.e. JK2 and JKA). That is because JK2 and JKA doesn't tamper with big-time characters like Luke, Han, Liea, etc.
As for EU sources that used big-time characters in order to try to increase their popularity they will pay the price now.
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For me, this pretty much changes nothing - I won't enjoy the Trawn Trilogy any less, just because it now isn't officially a part of the same canon as stuff like the prequels. I may feel differently if the new movies come out, contradicting the EU I actually like and I end up liking the new films as well, but I still think I'll be able to enjoy those books as separate stories, even if that's the case.
imperialscum said:
As for EU sources that used big-time characters in order to try to increase their popularity they will pay the price now.
Here's the thing, though: they've had 20+ years to kill off Han, Luke and Leia in the EU and they haven't. Also, didn't Chewie's death need to be OK'd by GL himself? That, to me, makes it semi-official.
Fang Zei said:
imperialscum said:
As for EU sources that used big-time characters in order to try to increase their popularity they will pay the price now.
Here's the thing, though: they've had 20+ years to kill off Han, Luke and Leia in the EU and they haven't. Also, didn't Chewie's death need to be OK'd by GL himself? That, to me, makes it semi-official.
You don't kill the milk cow. Unless some EU author wants be an attention whore and tries to make himself look important by killing one of the big-time character. But Lucas kept them in line that much.
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You simply cannot kill any of the lead characters without changing the fundamental group dynamic, and thus the established narrative trend.
The only reason Chewie was allowed to go is because he comparatively had the least involvement in said dynamic.
Vozlov said:
You simply cannot kill any of the lead characters without changing the fundamental group dynamic, and thus the established narrative trend.
The only reason Chewie was allowed to go is because he comparatively had the least involvement in said dynamic.
This is it exactly, and that is why when they say they killed Chewie to show that "no one is safe" is a pile of crap, because Chewie was the absolute safest kill they could have made (and very likely the only one). They didn't even kill Lando, who was around for fewer films, because even he had more dynamic.
Not that I agree with that, because I thought Chewie was a great character who had great dynamic with the characters, but he does speak an untranslated language after all.
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Chewie has always been hard to translate into prose. (Even Artoo presents the same problem.) I suspect that's one reason Heir To The Empire had a Wookiee liaison on Kashyyk with a speech impediment that allowed him to speak basic.
Killing Lando likely would have caused a bigger uproar than Chewie.
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
Killing Lando likely would have caused a bigger uproar than Chewie.
Yeah, that's my point. Chewie was the safest bet, which I always thought made his death pointless and silly because they killed him ostensibly to show that "nobody was safe" when, if they really wanted to show that, they'd have picked one of the big three and eaten the backlash it caused.
I think we all still knew that everyone else was safe, even after Chewie died, which just made the whole thing an exercise in futility.
From my point of view.
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They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
darklordoftech said:
They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
Which is exactly why it would be total BS to just throw out the EU now. The big three are still alive in the books. Why else would Lucas be saving them if not to give at least one of them a dramatic death in the ST?
Fang Zei said:
darklordoftech said:
They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
Which is exactly why it would be total BS to just throw out the EU now. The big three are still alive in the books. Why else would Lucas be saving them if not to give at least one of them a dramatic death in the ST?
I guess there's certain things that Lucas doesn't want written about his characters, canon or not.
darklordoftech said:
They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
Exactly, which means they should have dropped the whole idea of killing an OT character off altogether.
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Fang Zei said:
darklordoftech said:
They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
Which is exactly why it would be total BS to just throw out the EU now. The big three are still alive in the books. Why else would Lucas be saving them if not to give at least one of them a dramatic death in the ST?
Because the children in the ST are going to be completely different from the children depicted in the EU. There will be no Jaina, Jacen or Anakin. Some of the new characters might be similar but they are not the same characters and there's no way they can retcon something that huge.
Tobar said:
Fang Zei said:
darklordoftech said:
They wanted to kill Luke, but Lucas wouldn't let them.
Which is exactly why it would be total BS to just throw out the EU now. The big three are still alive in the books. Why else would Lucas be saving them if not to give at least one of them a dramatic death in the ST?
Because the children in the ST are going to be completely different from the children depicted in the EU. There will be no Jaina, Jacen or Anakin. Some of the new characters might be similar but they are not the same characters and there's no way they can retcon something that huge.
You don't know the power of the fandumb.
That TCW made the Fetts non-Mandos and gave characters new fates. The EU deserves it.
The only thing mandalorian about Fett was the armour. It's been that way since before the prequels.
Just read the bio on the back of Hasbro's Power of the Force Fett figure or the Visual Dictionary. They both clearly state that he wears mandalorian armour but nothing about Fett himself being mandalorian. In fact, the bio from Hasbro even stated that the mandalorians were destroyed during the clone wars.
I think the Marvel comics did run with Boba being a Mandalorian, though (something about him being part of a team of Mandalorian commandos which served the Empire during the Clone Wars). With the relaunch of the EU in the '90s, that aspect of the character was jettisoned (until AOTC rolled around, anyway).
I honestly always thought of Boba as the kind of "Last of the Mandalorians". It never really registered to me that he wasn't one at all.
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I, too, used to consider Boba one of the last Mandalorians. The way the character and the Mandalorians were handled following the release of AOTC eventually soured the idea for me, though, so now I just prefer to run with the "Boba Fett was Jaster Mereel" thing.
I love how TOTJesque the final episode of TCW ("Sacrifice") is. Sith illusions and spells, Sidious speaking the Sith language that Exar Kun spoke, etc.
http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-awesome-scenes-youll-never-see-in-star-wars-movies/
This article illustrates nicely, why IMO it may not be such a bad thing, that the existing EU got trashed :-)
This armor worn by one of the Dark Jedi who discovered the Sith species will be wearable in SWTOR. So glad to see that this Dark Jedi didn't wear a Palpatine/Maul cloak.
Imperial Knights. I love that they don't conform to the Jedi or Sith ideologies.
Reading the New Essential Chronology has always made me nostalgic for a time when the EU was largely Sith-free.
I liked that it was an expanded universe. The characters continued on beyond the movies and they sometimes but not that much unfortunately, went in a divergent direction from Lucas.
Then the prequels happened and they started to prequelise everything even the stories with Luke, Han and Leia.
Even Timothy Zahn's later stories even at a minimum had prequel parasites attached.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.