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Supernova (2000) [spoRv] *BD-25* RELEASED

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_,,,^..^,,,_ presents:

SUPERNOVA (2000) [spoRv]

| PROJECTS: Released | In progress | Future | Mission & Setup |


Mission:
to release Supernova in High Definition Blu-ray format.

Video sources: 2x HDTV

Audio sources: DVD

Subtitles sources: DVD


Project info:

Even if "Supernova" could not be considered a masterpiece, I like it, as many of us... no Blu-ray is ever released, so it's time to make a proper high-definition version.

There are two HDTV broadcasts around, one scandinavian and the other russian; both are 1920x1080 2.35:1 25fps; they have different color grading but, apart that and according to preliminary tests, they match 100%; if it proves true, I'll overlay them to average compression artifacts and obtain a better quality without using nasty noise reduction; result color is also better than both single version; video then will be slowed down to 23.976fps.

All five languages are taken from the PAL DVD; they are all Dolby Digital 5.1 tracks; they are converted from 25fps to 23.976fps; if I'll be able to find out the English Cinema DTS track, it will be included as main track.

Subtitles for all five languages are from PAL DVD.


Source Material

Video:

  • Supernova - Scandinavian HDTV
  • Supernova - Russian HDTV

Audio:

  • Supernova - IT PAL DVD

Subtitles:

  • Supernova - IT PAL DVD

Project Status: RELEASED!


Final format: BD-25

Video:

1920x1080, 23.976fps, A.R. 2.35:1, AVC encoded

Audio:

DD 16bit 448kbps 5.1 from PAL DVD: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish

DD 16bit 192kbps 2.0 from HDTV

Subtitles:

from PAL DVD: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish

Notes:

Animated menu

SCREENSHOT COMPARISONS

TEST CLIP - 88.9MB, no audio

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UPDATE:

the two HDTV broadcast are temporally and spatially aligned; the russian version seems to have more details/grain intact, but also more compression artifacts; scandinavian version has less artifacts, but also less details and seems a bit too much waxy; if overlaid, result is better than single version; I thought to add a grain plate to improve perceived detail level.

russian HDTV (note residual logo, bottom left, and black drop outs, left side near the circular door):
http://s21.postimg.org/uzszcozut/Supernova_67323_russian.png

scandinavian HDTV (black drop outs still present):
http://s21.postimg.org/ygv1fnyx1/Supernova_67323_scandinavian.png

50% mix, residual logo deleted, drop outs removed, grain plate applied:
http://s21.postimg.org/i74vcro91/Supernova_67323_sporv.png

face details, 2x zoom, from left: russian, scandinavian, mix:

link to the image: http://s13.postimg.org/p90yz60av/Supernova_67323_zoom.png

What do you think? JEDIT: New test clip could now be found in the first post.

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Video is ready to be encoded; audio tracks are ready as subtitles; this will be my first project with proper extra, and I'm actually building one by myself!!!

It will take few days, as it's my first attempt on making an extra feature...

Meanwhile, I'm looking for the Cinema DTS track, but it seems impossible to find, so I will add the HDTV stereo track - along with all the other 5.1 tracks - or, if someone is crazy enough to capture the english track from the VHS tape... (^^,)

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why not use the dolby 5.1 from the u.s. dvd?

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I have not it... the english 5.1 will be from the PAL DVD, until someone would kindly "donate" it! (^^,)

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Interesting, never heard of that movie. Will definitely check out your project.

There is a PAL DVD5 torrent on the internet with subs in these languages:

Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian,
Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish.

But no one seeds the damn thing. :/ I'll try to snatch it in the next couple of days.

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Feallan, thanks for your interest; after I decided to make this project, I made my homework and discovered the tumultuous history behind it... and I'm happy I'm doing this.

No worry about tracks and soundtitles, I have all the ones I need - apart Cinema DTS, that seems impossible to find anyway...

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I've always liked this film. I saw it in the theatre when it was released briefly. I'm glad to see you're doing this one - very exciting!

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Oldfan, happy to hear I'm not the only one who likes this film!

I took all the deleted scenes, enhanced, upscaled; put them in one single file, divided in chapters; file is encoding right now.

After that, I'll work with some trailers and teasers; then, I must compile a still gallery, even if until now I have not discovered how to stop the player after each image - I guess I'll play each picture for 10 or 15 seconds...

Last extra I'm working on is a surprise, hope everyone will be happy with it!

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Very cool, and thanks for the update! I'm looking forward to it. The extras sound great too! I thought the deleted scenes on the DVD were quite interesting actually. Shame this film didn't do better. But if you watch the trailer it's no wonder. What a strange trailer they made for this film.

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I must admit it's one of the few trailers that seems to scream "don't go to see this movie, it's awful!" while the movie, even if with heavy cuts (indeed, some deleted scenes NOT included in the DVD are present in the trailer) it's not that bad...

I was also lucky enough to find out three pre-production teasers, much much better than the final trailer, and these ones promote the movie in the appropriate manner!

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Shame we cant get the shooting script and re-edit it 

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dvdmike said:

Shame we cant get the shooting script and re-edit it 

 Agree... if only we could take our hands onto the other 20 minutes of deleted scenes...

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I take it no home release has them?

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According to The Seattle Times:

The official press kit claims that it's R-rated and runs 125 minutes, but the movie that appeared at matinees yesterday is PG-13 and it runs about 85 minutes.

and to The Guardian:

...journalists at a Digital Domain press junket in February 1999 were shown almost 40 minutes of what one viewer describes as "absolutely cutting edge, moving-camera effects shots".

We have good evidences here, but AFAIK no home video releases contains this footage; if it still exists nowadays, it should be into the MGM vault...

Side note: as lately I found an open matte version of the movie sourced from HDTV but with an annoying logo, I'd like to fix it and release it too; because it will take some time to do it, I thought to release the movie alone - it could be ready in two or three days, and then later an extra disc, with the open matte version, deleted scenes, trailers+teasers, two soundtracks, image gallery and the special extra "thing" I'm working on.

What do you all think about this?

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If it's open why not just add the matte back in to cover it?

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Well, the open matte is only 720p so quality is not as goog as the non open matte... so, I thought to use the non OM version(s) for the main preservation, and the OM as an extra feature.

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It's a shame about this film because after viewing the deleted scenes, there is a very decent sci-fi film buried in this mess

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...and, again, with ALL the 40 minutes re-inserted, the original Walter Hill movie could have been a very good sci-fi movie!

What about the two discs idea? One with movie only (ASAP) and the other with reduced quality but open matte, plus extra, later?

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

According to The Seattle Times:

The official press kit claims that it's R-rated and runs 125 minutes, but the movie that appeared at matinees yesterday is PG-13 and it runs about 85 minutes.

and to The Guardian:

...journalists at a Digital Domain press junket in February 1999 were shown almost 40 minutes of what one viewer describes as "absolutely cutting edge, moving-camera effects shots".

We have good evidences here, but AFAIK no home video releases contains this footage; if it still exists nowadays, it should be into the MGM vault...

Side note: as lately I found an open matte version of the movie sourced from HDTV but with an annoying logo, I'd like to fix it and release it too; because it will take some time to do it, I thought to release the movie alone - it could be ready in two or three days, and then later an extra disc, with the open matte version, deleted scenes, trailers+teasers, two soundtracks, image gallery and the special extra "thing" I'm working on.

What do you all think about this?

 

I'd be happy to see the stand-alone open-matte version. Honestly I could live with the logo with the open-matte version if there's no way around it.

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

...and, again, with ALL the 40 minutes re-inserted, the original Walter Hill movie could have been a very good sci-fi movie!

What about the two discs idea? One with movie only (ASAP) and the other with reduced quality but open matte, plus extra, later?

Yeah, definitely a nice idea. We would have the film right away and the extras to look forward to a bit later. I like the idea of 2 discs also. It would make a great film for the weekend (or whenever you get it out of course)!

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Decided: one disc for the movie, the other (later) for extras and open matte version - that, probably, will be almost logo-free...

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Awesome! How will you be able to (mostly) remove the logo? Do you just crop it out or is there some method to remove it? I've seen a method used once that sort-of removes station logos but honestly I didn't think it looked great - you could still see a "smudged" area where the logo was, and in that case, I would have actually just preferred the station ID logo. I'm used to seeing those all the time on tv anyways so I'd find that less annoying than seeing a "weird" area of the screen where the logo was. Of course maybe you're using another method, so I'm curious how it will be achieved.

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As both HDTV versions are pixel perfect, what I did is to color grading the one with no logo in the image, then I took the "patch" (rectangular) from it and overlaid it to the residual logo of the other one; simple, eh?

The final encoding is on its way right now; if all will go well (touching wood) the final release will be today or tomorrow!

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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

As both HDTV versions are pixel perfect, what I did is to color grading the one with no logo in the image, then I took the "patch" (rectangular) from it and overlaid it to the residual logo of the other one; simple, eh?

The final encoding is on its way right now; if all will go well (touching wood) the final release will be today or tomorrow!

 Awesome. Looking forward to seeing the results.