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This is how I feel after this debate over window frames:

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Guys?!  Can't we PLEASE just wait until Ady announces he is done?  There is no need for this back-and-forth over what is absolutely nothing.

KingKong650:  I love you man... I really do (in a platonic way).  You have a ton of talent, and I love your color corrected releases over on TehParadox.  If you don't like the window framing, then when Ady releases his edit, use it as a template to make a version that crops the window frame.  Better to have MORE information you can ply away than have a cropped image you are stuck with.

Adywan: I love you too.. but you CAN have an ego.. such as going back and forth over a window frame when all you ever had to do was just say "this is what I'm doing, because I like the way it looks.  End of debate."  There is no need to give yourself an ulcer over a window frame.

Now to keep this pertinent to the thread, I personally like the opened shot.  Not to mention, it is always better to have access to more visual information, as there is nothing stopping anyone from creating a tweaked edit with a more cropped cockpit shot.

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

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Monroville said:

This is how I feel after this debate over window frames:

MST3K "Mitchell": Servo Loses It

Guys?!  Can't we PLEASE just wait until Ady announces he is done?  There is no need for this back-and-forth over what is absolutely nothing.

KingKong650:  I love you man... I really do (in a platonic way).  You have a ton of talent, and I love your color corrected releases over on TehParadox.  If you don't like the window framing, then when Ady releases his edit, use it as a template to make a version that crops the window frame.  Better to have MORE information you can ply away than have a cropped image you are stuck with.

Adywan: I love you too.. but you CAN have an ego.. such as going back and forth over a window frame when all you ever had to do was just say "this is what I'm doing, because I like the way it looks.  End of debate."  There is no need to give yourself an ulcer over a window frame.

Now to keep this pertinent to the thread, I personally like the opened shot.  Not to mention, it is always better to have access to more visual information, as there is nothing stopping anyone from creating a tweaked edit with a more cropped cockpit shot.

 I like the way you worded this. I can dig it.

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adywan said:

Bingowings said:


I do hope Ady will be as OCD when it comes to making the Executor bridge in ROTJ look as good as the one in ESB (what is it with 80's sequels and buggering up hand-me-down sets?).

 Well, that's the real trick, isn't it. ;) But that bridge is going to be almost impossible to get it to match the better ESB one, thanks mainly to this guy stuck down the bottom, here....

 This will be extremely tough, but it might be a matter of cutting out some of the actors (such as the one walking on the plank) and using the bridge shots in EMPIRE (while creating new mattes for outside the bridge windows).  I know that is definitely easier said than done, but it might be an easier option than trying to ply away things in the original shot(s).

In fact, I think it would be interesting to go back and watch JEDI with full frame TVs in mind.  To judge the above shot on set design, it doesn't make any sense - not only is the scanner guy sitting on the edge of the gangplank, but the wall to the bridge entrance is located 5 to 10 feet from where it should be.    BUT, if you see this as framed for a 4:3 TV set, it makes perfect sense.  I wonder if there other scenes that are designed for (the then current) 4:3 TV frame if you were to crop the 2.35:1 image down.

         

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It's obvious to me now why he just doesn't get it. kk650 is kenkraly's sock! The name fits!

Moth3r, I thought socks had been banned? Though I can possibly understand how the odd one might slip through undetected. My washing machine has been responsible for many the rogue sock in its time.....

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His spelling and grammar are too good to be our old friend Ken.

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The term "Breaking the 4th wall" has lost it's meaning by now....

Repeated mindlessly over and over and over again. Like "hodor"

But hodor hasn't lost it's meaning, it never will, because Hodor is awesome, and whenever he opens his mouth, he makes much more sense than this whats his face kk344759 person.

Love the uncropped versions Ady, amazing as usual!

Hodor!

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Marty.McFly said:

The term "Breaking the 4th wall" has lost it's meaning by now....

Repeated mindlessly over and over and over again. Like "hodor"

But hodor hasn't lost it's meaning, it never will, because Hodor is awesome, and whenever he opens his mouth, he makes much more sense than this whats his face kk344759 person.

Love the uncropped versions Ady, amazing as usual!

Hodor!

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Abraham Lincoln

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kk650 said:

I'll leave it at that, I've expressed my opinion I don't want to derail this thread any further, this is Adywan's project so of course he has the final say.

kk650 said:

I'll leave you to make your grandiose statements of fact and rule your own little fiefdom in peace. I've got my own releases to get back to.

kk650 said:

there's no point continuing this. Do what you want to do and good luck.

kk650 said:

We'll leave it at that and I wish him all the luck in the world with this release, when it finally does see the light of day.

kk650 said:

Let's agree to disagree and move on. I don't want to stink up this thread any further than it has been.

kk650 said:

There's nothing left to say.

kk650 said:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

 

Abraham Lincoln

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What's blowing my mind (and I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it so far) is that in the newest set of expanded cockpit shots Ady posted, it's not just the cockpit walls that have been expanded -- we're even seeing more of the characters! There are two shots, for example, where we actually see more of Han's body than in the cropped version. 

Not only will this be cool to watch, but it would also appear to mean that Ady isn't extending our view of an inanimate background (by stitching still images together and motion tracking the extra pieces in the shots), which is what I had originally thought he might have been doing -- but actually using (and restoring, since it sounded pretty beat up) the HD film scan, including the actors' performances. I wonder if there are other hidden gems that have been restored from this asset, as well!

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I'd hate to have that seat on the bridge on the central walkway. Bad Health and safety that :) not to mention you would never get any work done.

What all the debate over the window about. I am one to over analize stuff but there is really nothing about it worth thinking about apart from the wider angle at least you get to see more of the cockpit and out the windows too. I think it's a good choice and pretty clever how it's been restored.

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Sorry if this subject has been already addressed, but is Artoo's akward movement falling into the hole after repairing the Falcon's hyperdrive going to be fixed? It always stuck out like a sore thumb to me...

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euroherbal said:

Sorry if this subject has been already addressed, but is Artoo's akward movement falling into the hole after repairing the Falcon's hyperdrive going to be fixed? It always stuck out like a sore thumb to me...

 Yes, this has been fixed. The problem with this shot is that it was sped up and there is no motion blur ( well not as much motion blur as there should be). So i added motion blur, along with other little enhancements, and it looks a lot more natural now

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Just to note I prefer the widescreen shots of the Falcon's cockpit. There's something off for me in the cropped shots, so thumbs up for all the hard work, Ady!

I haven't been able to find much info on it in the thread but (besides obviously re-cutting to match the video) what are you aiming for with the audio? Besides being a 5.1 mix, anything specific? Are you re-doing sound effects, etc.?

Sorry, just trying to get some info w/out having to again ask for a release date (soon...)! :)

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The uncropped shots are more atmospheric and almost claustrophobic. Doesn't matter that you see the window frames.

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re: windowframegate/windowframeageddon

Wow I feel like I caused this row :(

Honestly, it was the initial impression that the cockpit seemed shorter than it actually was, and the wider shot made me think of the camera hanging outside the set like it was an open window.

However, since Ady posted those side-on view comparison shots, the cockpit obviously goes much further forward beyond the dashboard than I thought, so the point is moot.

Even if that wasn't the case, I will repeat my original opinion: Ady's shots are much preferred.

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Pardon me for asking. But what is the 4th wall you are referring to and why is so bad by braking it?

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please watch this information carfully ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTaN6wyMwCY

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is it true Addy will take a year break before starting RoTJ:R? i think i read that somewhere

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I don't know about Ady but I have learned that the OCD is a cruel mistress and she never takes off time.

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Niflamol said:


Pardon me for asking. But what is the 4th wall you are referring to and why is so bad by braking it?
If you think of a traditional 3-camera television studio set, they usually build only three walls. The fourth wall is the wall you or the studio audience has to imagine is there. "Breaking the fourth wall" on purpose is like Frank Underwood talking to the camera in "House of Cards", but we're talking about doing it on accident, like seeing the edges of a set or a boom mic, something that takes you out of the illusion of what you're watching being a real thing.

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DarkRha said:

is it true Addy will take a year break before starting RoTJ:R? i think i read that somewhere

 He will be taking a year off after the release of ESB:R; and well deserved from what I've seen. 

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C'mon, everyone knows that the fourth wall is the ceiling of a triangle-shaped room.