Warbler said:

generalfrevious said:

The whole franchise is dead, and has been for 20 years (15 if you like DS9). No power on earth can make ST good ever again.

JJ blew it up permanently.

STID was so horrendous it nullified any goodwill the previous film may have had

the above statements are what I meant by exaggeration.

. Star Trek used to mean something to us.

used to? it still does to me. Don't the let JJ render Star Trek meanless to you. If Star Trek means nothing to us, the fans, it will truly die. But as long as we know what Star Trek really is about and what it stands for and that it does mean something to us, it can be saved. It may take a few years, I believe sci fi and Star Trek can be saved. What we need are more visionaries like Roddenbury and what Lucas used to be, to come along.

Now it's just some soulless product to make some rich Viacom CEO even richer.

maybe it is now, it doesn't have to remain this way.

Yeah good point. We all need to remember that.

The third Doctor had a saying I have always liked. "While there is life there's a chance." and I think that applies here and I am sorry I forgot it.

Someone will come along and restore Star Trek at some point. it may not happen today or even in the next five years but as long as one of us remembers what Star Trek is really about at some point it will come back.