Warbler said:

generalfrevious said:

The whole franchise is dead, and has been for 20 years (15 if you like DS9). No power on earth can make ST good ever again. JJ blew it up permanently. Does anyone honestly think Chris Pine will be as iconic as Willaim Shatner? STID was so horrendous it nullified any goodwill the previous film may have had. These new films represent everything wrong with our corporation-centric, one percenter, money is speech culture. Like I said, they should wipe these films out of existence; they deserve to be forgotten. Star Trek used to mean something to us. Now it's just some soulless product to make some rich Viacom CEO even richer.

while I didn't think Star Trek Into Darkness was all that great, I think you exaggerate just a bit.

We live in one of the most cynical periods in modern history. Art is being destroyed by hacks like Abrams, and they get praised for ruining franchises. He makes Rick Berman innocent by comparison. Star Trek used to be just more than some silly low budget tv show; it was an optimistic look on humanity exploring the unknown world with others, and finding solutions to problems that did not boil down to punching the bad a hundred times, like in some dumb action movie. I don't think I can exaggerate too much in the death of science fiction as we know it.