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Post #700699

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DrCrowTStarwars
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All Things Star Trek
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17-Apr-2014, 7:19 AM

Yeah and the same limitations applied to TNG. Oh and did you just call for them to use black face to change actor's skin colour? In the 1980s? I think you have gone completely insane and you still can't prove that any of this would have worked on screen or on budget. Again where is your proof? if making aliens that don't look human with out CGI is so easy then you do it. Come back in a week with a complete episode's worth of special effects that use no CGI and look realistic with dozens of extras made up so you can't tell they are human under the make up.

Oh and you blast creationism and anyone who believes in it and then you latter blast the writers for not believe in it and doing so in their script. Show me one creationist that was on the Enterprise in TOS and that is a scripting issue so don't you dare come back with your tired old line about how people were still trying to figure out how fire worked in the 1960s so any problems with the show should be overlooked.  The fact is the methods for producing effects didn't change all that much between 1966 and 1987. Computers were put in control of cameras and did the compositing and that is it. It may have been a little faster but it wasn't cheap or fast at that point. Also even the little things like a phaser blast mean hour of manual work and it may blow your mind but the people that did that work cost money and that had to come out of the budget the same budget that hired make up people to apply the stuff to dozens of actors every week. The big change was that people demanded special effects on par with films like Star Wars every week in 87 so that is what they had to focus on. Also they couldn't afford to keep actors in a chair for six days while they made them look 100% non human.  Not even films did that.  Again if TNG could do this then it should be very easy for you to find proof. Anything from a budget report to make up artists saying that they came to the producers with a method for doing it that they could prove would not blow the budget and being shot down. Where is your proof beyond your personal hatred of everyone who ever worked on TNG?

You seem to be living in a dream world were TNG had an unlimited budget and access to tech that didn't exist yet and you are determined to personally attack and insult every person who worked on the show and everyone who watched it.  You have admitted that you know nothing about what was going on behind the scenes meanwhile I have read books and interviews with the people who were there.  I will take their word for what was going on over yours.

You are just someone who needs to attack the hard work of others in order to validate your own life when if you were challenged to do that same work you couldn't do nearly as good a job as they did.  I am done with you because no amount of facts can ever penetrate pure hate and that is all you are and all you will ever know.  You hate everyone and everything because it makes you feel better about yourself.  Well I am not stupid enough to spend the rest of my life having this debate with you.

Oh and H.P Lovecraft wrote books,he didn't make weekly TV episodes. It's much easier to describe something that doesn't look human on paper then it is to make it week after week for dozens of extras. The fact that you think there is no more work in creating a make up effect then there is in typing out a story and it doesn't cost a cent more says all there is to say about you and just how far off the deep end you are.

So yes in 1987 you could create CGI aliens who didn't look human at all and looked 100% realistic for $1 a piece just like they did on TOS where there were never any human aliens.  The producers of TNG choose not to so they could spend all day doing lines of coke off of strippers. Oh and every script was written by an inbred redneck who's mother and sister were the same person and had no idea how to write a script and they were hired because the producers wanted Star Trek to fail. TNG was the worst thing the human race has ever produced and everyone who worked on it should be burned alive for their crimes against the human race and the one hundred percent perfect show that never put a foot wrong known as Stat Trek.

There I said everything you wanted now I am done with you.