DrCrowTStarwars said:
What proof do you have that making aliens that didn't look at all human was a choice for TNG. They had to use the makeup people they had and they didn't have an unlimited budget as you admit.
I still don't see why they couldn't have at least used some face paint to give the aliens some non-human skin colours or some contact lenses to give them non-human eye colours.
In the end, though, when you get right down to it, I could have lived with the lame rubber forehead aliens if the writers had at least come up with a better explanation for their existence other than the stupid pseudoscientific "ancient rubber forehead aliens seeded the galaxy with DNA designed to evolve into more rubber forehead aliens" crap.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
Oh and at the time it aired TOS was one of the most expensive shows on Tv,so how come they get a pass? They shouldn't
You can give a show the biggest budget in the world, and that won't make a bit of difference if technological limitations get in the way of bringing a creative vision to life.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
and you keep insisting that TNG was the only show that ever had aliens that looked human,it was not.
I never said that. What I said -- basically -- is that TNG's overuse of human and rubber forehead aliens was stupid or -- alternatively -- the explanation behind their existence was.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
Also how did the show that got the best ratings of any Star Trek series and became just as much a part of the pop culture as Star Trek damage Star Trek?
Perhaps the political correctness and pseudoscientific technobabble of the show didn't bother most viewers. I, however, can't stand any of it.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
Oh and again go rewatch the episodes you will find tons of debate between the character but in the end Picard was the captain so the crew did what he said because that is how the military or any job with a chain of command works. it seems to me your problem is with the fact that the crew didn't commit mutiny every single week. That may seem dramatic but it's not realistic and it would have gotten old after a while.
When I speak of conflict between the characters, I don't just mean conflict between Picard and his subordinates on issues pertaining to the running of the Enterprise or missions, I also speak of matters of a more personal nature, such as differing political, religious, philosophical, etc. ideals. From what I saw from TNG, there was never any major difference of opinion between the different crewmembers in regard to these matters.
Take, for example, the episode "Who Watches the Watchers". This episode deals heavily with the idea of theism and theistic worship, and could have easily featured the characters -- each with differing views on the subject -- engaging and debating each other on the idea. Instead, however, each of the main characters are Mary Sues of the writer(s), with each more-or-less sharing the same basic antitheistic beliefs.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
TNG and TOS were set up to explore SCi-Fi ideas and a lot of that technobabble you complain about has a basis in real science and that was the point of the show a lot of weeks. They would take something that was a theory at the time and expand upon it.
Oh, please. Most of that technobabble is pseudoscientific hogwash with as much basis in real science as Young Earth Creationism. Besides, the people-that-be have gone on record stating that all the technobabble in TNG was added to the script merely to pad the story out so that they could have an episode that ran a full hour.
DrCrowTStarwars said:
Oh and I always thought the aliens looked really good,it's only after CGI came around(Something that didn't get into full swing until after the series ended)that I heard anyone complain.
If anything turned me off of human and rubber forehead aliens, it was the works of H. P. Lovecraft, not plastic-looking CGI.
You seem to think that if you put two characters into a room and they don't instantly pull out knives and try to kill each other then the story is badly written. I don't know what to tell you other then that is not how humans in general and military personal act in real life.
You've gotten it into your head that my definition of "interpersonal conflict" means "brawl matches". Well, it doesn't. It means "differences of opinion -- sometimes very strong differences of opinion".
I don't think Star trek is the franchise for you. I think maybe you should give the Sci-Fi version of BSG a try,it seems a lot closer to the type of show you would enjoy.
The Star Trek envisioned by TOS and -- to a somewhat lesser extent -- DS9, is very much a franchise for me. The pretentious, pseudo-Communist Star Trek envisioned by Roddenberry for TNG, on the other hand, isn't.