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Wow.
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Wheeeeeeeeeeew - That is sweet
“My skill are no longer as Mad as the once were” RiK
Wow.
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Sweet looking set zion. Colour me impressed.
The colours, the crispness, the Han-shoots-firstness.
I'm also thoroughly impressed by the amount of effort going into these dvds. I think it speaks volumes to the effect the REAL versions of these films had on us all waaay back when we were much, much younger that a talented fan such as yourself would go to such lengths to preserve them in such a fashion.
I shall follow this thread with great interest. ETA/street date?
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No ETA yet. Hopefully the price of DL media goes down in the next couple of months so I can make some test discs.
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the Han-shoots-firstness.
LOL!
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Hey, can I get a TOOT filter for my stormtrooper armor? After that burrito I just ate, I could probably fart the Imperial March!
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I compared the new screenshots to my own anamorphic set (from Rikter I think) and I have one word: A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Are you going to make .torrents also from this set so other DL burner owners could make sets?
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Originally posted by: DanielB
Zion, because of the limitations of some widescreen TV's you'll let that dictate the quality of the transfers? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There are DVD Players on the market that will output a 16:9 Anamorphic picture from non-anamorphic sources, people can use them if it's that important to have a 16:9 picture.
Zion, because of the limitations of some widescreen TV's you'll let that dictate the quality of the transfers? I've said it before, and I'll say it again. There are DVD Players on the market that will output a 16:9 Anamorphic picture from non-anamorphic sources, people can use them if it's that important to have a 16:9 picture.
I have been very busy with projects at work and at home so I haven't been following this conversation all that much but after catching up this morning I felt I should chime in.
No offense to DanielB but comments like the above sound absolutely insane. For years I have followed threads at the DVD Talk forum and the one thing I have learned is that DVD Fans believe that "anamorphic" video is the best new invention since sliced bread and a true audio/video aficionado would be absolutely insulted if you told them that 4:3 letterboxed video was better and that they should upgrade their DVD Player to a model that can "trick" the video into filling out the entire screen by stretching it via some sort of pseudo automatic mechanism.
I have seen a lot of posts in the OT forum where people suggest that widescreen TV owners should use their DVD Player's "zoom" function to make up for the fact that 4:3 letterboxed video will not fill out the screen the way anamorphic video will. Both the idea of using the "zoom" function or a DVD Player that does this automagically for you as a means of fooling the viewer into believing they are actually seeing the "full" widescreen presentation is preposterous.
I guess I come at this from a different angle. Since I come from the world of an A/V aficionado who has spent way too much time at places like DVD Talk I have grown to detest 4:3 letterboxed video. DVD video and modern day A/V equipment just screams for anamorphic video. I have seen numerous threads over at DVD Talk where people actually boycott purchasing DVDs just because they are presented in 4:3 letterbox instead of anamorphic widescreen.
With that said, I do realize that since the source of this and other such transfers is coming from a less superior, analog source, the resolution is not what we would expect from DVD, however, I do not feel that making transferring a widescreen video to an anamorphic format will degrade it to such a noticeable extent that it will detract from the presentation. A lot of the people here at the OT forum that have made comments to the contrary do not ahve HDTV or otherwise Widescreen TVs and typically view their DVDs on a Computer monitor to judge the quality. While a computer is great for inspecting DVDs and has the potential of much higher image quality than any TV, the experience is much different from watching on a real TV. Along with that, comparing anamorphic widescreen and letterboxed widescreen video on a 4:3 TV is not a true test of the quality of the video presentation. This so called "standard" 4:3 scale television is an abomination of the video medium and restricting viewing to this old and outdated format by utilizing burned in black bars to "frame" a video down from its original aspect ratio to fit into a smaller viewing area is just absurd.
If given the choice between being forced to sit down and clicking the "zoom" button a few times to fill out my widescreen TV to view a 4:3 letterboxed presentation or sitting back and enjoying the wonders of modern technology at work by providing anamorphically sized 16:9 video, you can bet my finger will be no where near the "zoom" button
Zion, I think you made a great decision in going with an anamorphic widescreen presentation. The only anamorphic transfers that are out there right now are the Dr Gonzo and Farsight transfers.... both of which are fuzzy, whitewashed transfers of the inferior "Definitive Collection" set of laserdiscs. Because of the fact that the available anamorphic transfers are rather poor when held against the highly coveted TR47 transfer, a lot of people believe it is the anamorphic transfer that makes them inferior. As we have seen in your screenshots, your transfer is worlds apart from Dr Gonzo, Farsight and even TR47. I think we are all going to be pleasantly surprised
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So in this case analog zooming (or resizing) is better than digital. That's that.
But with modern resizing alcorithms the advantage is so small that most of us won't notice it. Alcorithms like lanzcos etc.
Anamorphic is still far better than letterboxed but only in case when the anamorphic DVD can be made from proper source - not from letterboxed material.
I also prefer the DVD anamorphic rather than letterboxed. Simply because in the future I might not be able to use analog zooming.
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Zion's R2-D2 Screenshot from ANH
Keep up the good work... this is phenominal
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We Got Death Star!
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Originally posted by: drjimmy526
Screenshots from ANH look nice, except - what's with the border artifact surrounding the left side of certain shapes e.g. Darth Vader in this shot, or Leia in this one?
Screenshots from ANH look nice, except - what's with the border artifact surrounding the left side of certain shapes e.g. Darth Vader in this shot, or Leia in this one?
That is a bi-product of using too much sharpness in the filters he's using.
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I wonder how noticeable it is for the full motion video.
Probably something only us geeks would notice
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I know that the one thing I find really distressing about the TR47 version is the noise-reduction that's been ( over- ) used. Of course this doesn't really show up on stills in the same way. Zion, would you be prepared to export a short section of your current ANH capture as DV, say, so we can see how it looks in action ? And, how about a few "before and after" screenshots so we can see the changes you're making to the original capture ?
PS. As far as I'm concerned, anamorphic vs. 4:3 is a non-issue with a letterboxed source. TV zoom or software scaling both look fine - analogue zoom is crisper but with more aliasing, in my experience.
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The haloing (sp?) was there from the raw capture. I don't know if it's something that my LD player is introducing into the signal because it's old, or if it's a cable. I don't think it's a cable because I've tested it out with two different Monster Cables, and got the same result. It shows up a bit better than it should because of my sharpening filter, but it's a necessary evil since the sharpen makes the whole video look a hell of a lot better. I'm leaning towards two causes on this: A) the haloing is there on the disc, or B) my video connector is at fault. I'm leaning towards B because the connecter is loose, and upon further inspection the connecter loses the signal completely if I move it around enough. I may end up trying to acquire a new player if this becomes more of a problem.
Upon closer inspection, when viewing the raw avi, it appears that the haloing is a ghost of the previous frame. This means that it only shows up on things that are in motion, and it only lasts for one frame. I really only noticed it on the video because I was watching for it, so I would have to say it's hardly noticable at all, much less a distraction.
mistertones - Great idea. I've got a 4 day weekend coming up, so I'll probably have something up by Monday at the latest. Most likely it'll be a 2-3 second clip, full quality mpeg2.
Edit:
Upon even closer inspection, yes, there is some slight haloing on black objects (ie vader, leia's hair) that is also coming from the raw capture. This may also be a result of the video connector on my LD player. I'll try using the S-Video jack and see if it's any different.
And another thing I just noticed, looking at MEBEJEDI's captures, the halo is there also. Is it possible that all Faces LD's have this flaw?
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My Projects:
[Holiday Special Hybrid DVD v2]
[X0 Project]
[Backstroke of the West DVD]
[ROTS Theatrical DVD]