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qxx said:


At the risk of being "that guy"...do we have an relatively updated tentative release date for ESB:R? I've plugged and pimped ANH:R to so many people that they are up my thermal exhaust port wondering when ESB:R is coming out. So just curious for myself and many others in the intersphere.



Edit: I should clarify - I'm not asking for a release date or even any hard info, just curious what the last tenatively, ballpark, estimated release time is (Early 2015, late 2014, etc...). You'd be surprised how hard it is to find the last mention of a release date, aside from this thread's title of course.
"When it's done" remains the release date. I don't think Ady wants to put what amounts to a due date on this without knowing what might go wrong between now and then, and disappointing so many people.

So we all wait. Better uneasiness at vaguarities than anger at broken promises.

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doubleofive said:

Better uneasiness at vaguarities than anger at broken promises.


Give in to your anger..

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[semi-off topic]

Blizzard, the video game company, is infamous for taking very long development periods for their games and not announcing release dates until they are 99% certain - and even then they push them back sometimes if their standard hasn't been met...  Their game quality is some of the highest in the industry - and people forgive the long development times when they get their hands on the final product...  (granted, some of the quality seems to have been slipping lately, but that's even more off-topic...)

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Ady, you know this - but I, and I'm sure plenty of others here, will continue to patiently wait for you to finish this labor of love that you have dedicated years of your life to... that we can then reap the reward with no work ourselves...  We are not entitled or owed this blessing you are giving us, but take it with humility and all the warmest regards and thankfulness for your efforts and sacrifice...

Take all the time you need to make it to the standard you're happy with!  I can't wait to see ESB:R as well as the other 4 films planned - but I know that whenever each one is released, it will be worth the wait...

Ady, to you and your team, including all the donators of time and money, THANK YOU!

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Something that really bugged me about the DVD/Blu-Ray releases of the Original Trilogy ( apart from the messed up colour pallet of course) was the re-framing/ cropping of all the wide shots inside the Millennium Falcon's cockpit. This was something that started to appear in a few shots in the 1997 SE's, but was further changed upon the release of the DVD's. Almost every wide shot inside the cockpit was heavily cropped.

Now many may not have even noticed this, but to me and many others, it stuck out like a sore thumb. Well, not any more......

I have been able to restore these shots to their original framing in glorious HD. Luckily i didn't have to use those low quality Bonus DVDs that were released in 2006, or any of the other various home video releases, to restore the framing. (proof in my next comment below)

So.... Click on the link to go to the comparison page...

Main image is the Official Blu-Ray and place the cursor over the image to see the restored version.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70730

And the comparison between the GOUT and Revisited:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/70735

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Awesome work as always, Ady! Does anyone know why they were cropped in the first place?

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Wow, that is awesome! So will you share the secret of how you did it? Did you have some 35mm sources? Are you doing this for all the cropped shots? I already did a few in ESB DeEd v1.0 but I obviously used the GOUT and they weren't very good and I was going to leave redoing them and doing the others, which were discovered later, until I could get my hands on 35mm sources for them, so I'm very curious whether there are some already available somewhere.

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adywan said:

I have been able to restore these shots to their original framing in glorious HD. Luckily i didn't have to use those low quality Bonus DVDs that were released in 2006, or any of the other various home video releases, to restore the framing.

How?!

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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timdiggerm said:

I don't see how this would be possible without 35mm sources.

So glad to see this done.

 Well, if you were really prepared to spend eternity on it, you could probably reconstruct the edges from other sources.

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Harmy said:

timdiggerm said:

I don't see how this would be possible without 35mm sources.

So glad to see this done.

 Well, if you were really prepared to spend eternity on it, you could probably reconstruct the edges from other sources.

 I would imagine they came from old HD TV broadcasts of some sort. But maybe that's best left unconfirmed. ;)

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adywan said:

Yes, i had a 1080p scan from a 35mm source. It was a pretty beat up print and badly faded, but did the trick in the end. I have been able to do all of the cropped shots. All i have heard about the cropping is that George preferred the tight framing done in ANH for the cockpits. How true that rumour is, is anyone's guess.

 I sit corrected.

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Sojourn said:

Awesome work as always, Ady! Does anyone know why they were cropped in the first place?

 I suspect the reason they were cropped is because you can it looks obvious the camera is looking in from OUTSIDE the cockpit and it looks more like a set (because you aren't seeing any cockpit window/window frame.) 

I prefer Ady's efforts overall, though. I'd rather see the whole cockpit.

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adywan: How did you deal with differences in distortion, etc.? Did you use an image registration program? If so, then which one?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Any sort of functioning image registration program is the stuff of my wet dreams.

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Harmy said:

Any sort of functioning image registration program is the stuff of my wet dreams.

poita has a functioning solution using Elastix and some CLisp code, but it takes ~4 minutes per frame pair.

We were going to spend some time figuring out how to parallelize it (across many machines), but we both got bogged-down with other things.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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metalmunki said:

Sojourn said:

Awesome work as always, Ady! Does anyone know why they were cropped in the first place?

 I suspect the reason they were cropped is because you can it looks obvious the camera is looking in from OUTSIDE the cockpit and it looks more like a set (because you aren't seeing any cockpit window/window frame.) 

I agree with this. Looking at the screencaps individually when you're not actually watching the films, Adywan's shot looks better because there's more detail on display, you can more clearly see that a wide angle lens was used with the lens distortion you would expect and I generally dislike cropping in films on principle.

In the case of actually watching the film though, where not breaking the fourth wall is the most important thing of all, that uncropped shot looks blatantly like a set like metalmunki says. Its reminding the viewer that they're actually watching something make believe, which is the worst sin you can commit in a film, rather than looking through a window into a universe far far away.

When watching the film, the cropping of the blu-ray was clearly done on purpose by Lucasfilm to avoid breaking the fourth wall. It succeeds in doing this and is therefore superior IMHO and given the choice, I personally would not use the opened up frame for my semi-specialised release but the cropped frame instead.

It is cool to see that opened up frame in terms of giving insight into how the film was shot and all the extra information it reveals on the sides but I personally think it would fit better in a behind the scenes making of documentary of Empire Strikes Back than the film itself.

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I don't see how it's any more "like a set" than the cropped one. "Inside" vs "Outside" the cockpit is bogus, as a camera could easily fit inside the cockpit for both shots, and a human viewer could sit in that location for neither shot.

Perhaps it was done to hide Kershner's decision to build the cockpit set larger for ESB. He did this specifically to fit everyone better inside the frame...which the cropping undoes.

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After watching ESB for the umpteenth time I got an idea to change some of the dialogue in the Luke vs Vader scene. I always felt Vader saying "Impressive....most impressive." after Luke jumped out of the Carbonite chamber to be very odd seeing as how he has barely proven himself in that duel up to that point. So I propose this: after Luke blinds Vader with the steam, grabs hit light saber and defends himself against Vader's attack then Vader should say "Impressive. Now release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me."

This does 2 things; making this change will give more context to the "Obi-Wan has taught you well." line used in ROTJ seeing as at that point Luke's skills had exponentially increased since their duel on Bespin. Also this makes the "Impressive." line more weight seeing as how Luke has done alot more than jump out of the Carbonite chamber and climb up a few inches. 

Thoughts?

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I don't see much reason for this since he had underestimated Luke by assuming that pushing him into the carbon freezer would be enough to defeat him when he showed himself, by jumping out in time, to be in tune with his surroundings, which is why during the rest of their duel he didn't hold back as he did before

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sonofjones said:

I don't see much reason for this since he had underestimated Luke by assuming that pushing him into the carbon freezer would be enough to defeat him when he showed himself, by jumping out in time, to be in tune with his surroundings, which is why during the rest of their duel he didn't hold back as he did before

Darth Vader was toying with Luke up until he struck from the shadows. With more of Luke's skills on display, the "Impressive" line makes more sense.

And don't forget about the "Obi-Wan has taught you well." being more significant if removed from ESB due to Luke's skill coming full circle. 

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the remark "Obi-Wan has taught you well" is somehow a paradox, because he was dead by that time and Yoda is/was Luke's master ;-)

testing/toying with Luke was all the purpose of Vader's trap, if he could have turned Luke to the Dark Side, the whole carbonfreezing would have been meaningless ...