Warbler said:
Look I am sorry I am not saying all Star Trek is bad but I just can't watch those scenes with Kirk without feeling ill. Sorry if I over reacted but I just don't do well with the type of sexism that was pretty much mainstream in the 1960s.
In my head I guess I know I should just get over it but I can't watch those scenes without thinking too much about them. Sorry.
its ok.
myself I am more open to viewing things in the time that they were created. Not having someone personally known to me who was rapped, I guess makes it easier. One thing you do have to understand is that if a show were made today and main character threated women the way Kirk does, I would have a problem with that. If you are unwilling to give older TV shows and older movies some slack in the politically correct department, you will never enjoy a lot of stuff that is older than twenty years.
Normally I am I watch a lot of old films but I guess because of my history this is just one issue where I can't get over it. Maybe I over reacted because this is my one hot button issue and I am sorry if I did. It's just to me it seems like when they have Kirk or James Bond grab a woman and then cut away(Because they were not allowed to show sex on the screen at the time)they are strongly implying that he forced the woman to have sex with him and then they tend to play it as he was so good at sex that she didn't mind him forcing her to have sex with him.
As I said it's my problem no one else's. It's just the whole "She wanted it" excuse sticks in my craw and always upsets me when I see it or hear it implied. I really do love Star Trek(Well everything except Voyager and the first two seasons of Enterprise),it's just this one thing that always bugs me. That is all.
Let's return to talking about the things we like about Star Trek not the things that make us feel ill because they are a hot button issue for us,okay.
My favorite episode is a tie between In the Pale Moonlight and The Trouble with Tribbles. Those are two of the most perfect hours of television ever made if you ask me.