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Star Trek Into Darkness IMAX 16:9 Preservation (* unfinished project *)

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Star Trek Into Darkness was shot in native IMAX. It was theatrically exhibited in IMAX. However, when the home video came out, everything was botched.

The IMAX footage has been located, but they are in a variety of different sources, including:

-Enhanced Commentary

-Bonus Features

-EPIX VOD

This is a thread documenting our attempts to preserve the IMAX version. I personally have a version together, but I still need a capture of the EPIX VOD in order to complete it. There are many missing frames that just don’t meet my anal-retentive nature.

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Just to be clear about this, we're talking about the IMAX scenes only? The rest of the movie doesn't exist in 16:9, does it?

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The rest of the movie does NOT exist in 16:9. Rather, portions of the film were shot 2.35:1, while others shot in native IMAX.

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I tried to make an IMAX edition edit back when this originally came out on iTunes in August, got as far as the Kronos scenes IIRC...and likewise, the missing piece was the fixed 16:9 broadcast version - doesn't have to be EPIX if we want since the broadcast master that Paramount sent out (apart from Sky Movies UK who specifically request scope versions whenever possible) is fixed 16:9 with expanded IMAX. Maybe others in the US can check if other HD VOD providers have it in good/better quality with 16:9?

In case anyone is interested here some bits from my unfinished edit - https://vimeo.com/channels/648915 The frame problems on the iTunes version meant that audio is a bit out probably...

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Nice job Anton - I checked those clips out previously when you mentioned them in a thread on blu-ray.com.

I only saw Star Trek in 2.35:1, I take it the IMAX sequences were straight cuts back and forth and not a transition like the Burj Khalifa climb in Mission Impossible and the arena entrance in Hunger Games Catching Fire?

Of the six released feature films with true IMAX footage is it only the above two sequences that transition from a standard aspect ratio to IMAX?

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trp said:


Nice job Anton - I checked those clips out previously when you mentioned them in a thread on blu-ray.com.

I only saw Star Trek in 2.35:1, I take it the IMAX sequences were straight cuts back and forth and not a transition like the Burj Khalifa climb in Mission Impossible and the arena entrance in Hunger Games Catching Fire?

Of the six released feature films with true IMAX footage is it only the above two sequences that transition from a standard aspect ratio to IMAX?
Actually, there is an on-screen transition in STID, from the establishing shot of the bar Scotty is drinking in to the tracking shot of people walking into the door. There might be others that I didn't notice, but I only noticed that in the "Commentary" video (which does have the IMAX footage in 16:9).

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You could always wait for this to premiere on cable tv (like HBO) if you want a less compressed 16x9 portion.

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Is this slow or fast project? Good demand or not enough demand?

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Negative. Until we can get our hands on an EPIX HD screencap or some other television preservation, no movement.

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digitalfreaknyc said:

Do you guys need me to cap it from Epix?

 Is it a cable broadcast or VOD like that one that was done in the bonus disc thread?

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If it's a cable broadcast, yes. That would help tremendously and let me be able to finish the preservation...well, really quickly.

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eldiablosuizo said:


If it's a cable broadcast, yes. That would help tremendously and let me be able to finish the preservation...well, really quickly.


Cable broadcast. It's OD so i'll make sure i get it before it's over.

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We found the last capture of OD to be lacking in quality. Maybe you can capture it better?

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Yeah, IIRC last time it was a Verizon FiOS broadcast instead of proper cable...hope it's not web-based this time.

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antovolk said:

Yeah, IIRC last time it was a Verizon FiOS broadcast instead of proper cable...hope it's not web-based this time.

 I was the one who found the EPIX HD version and did the initial crappy capture. Sadly the fault is not FIOS. FIOS is regular FDM for TV not IP (though they do use IP for VOD services). Since FIOS has a lot of bandwidth they don't remux the signal they get from EPIX, so in many ways it is much better then other cable providers, no additional remuxing, compression or SDV. The signal from EPIX was super compressed on the regular broadcast as much as the VOD. Lots of macro-blocking in the beginning "red jungle" chase. I am just worried that its going to be crap on all EPIX broadcasts and maybe another source all together would be better.

All other problems with the capture were my fault since my capture equipment is terrible. If no one else gets traction on this, I'm going to try again and this time try to record a copy off my cable card. That would capture the original stream from FIOS. But like I said it will probably still be a compressed mess.

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How about this? I can capture the first 10 minutes and you guys tell me what you think...

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Thanks df.

eldiablo how are you dealing with the 2.35:1 to 16:9 transition that doubleofive has mentioned (and any others if they exist)?

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trp said:


Thanks df.

eldiablo how are you dealing with the 2.35:1 to 16:9 transition that doubleofive has mentioned (and any others if they exist)?
I think the better question is how does the all-16:9 cable version handle it? I wonder who made that this version.

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doubleofive said:

Actually, there is an on-screen transition in STID, from the establishing shot of the bar Scotty is drinking in to the tracking shot of people walking into the door. There might be others that I didn't notice, but I only noticed that in the "Commentary" video (which does have the IMAX footage in 16:9).

 

Don't need to do anything. There aren't any onscreen graphics to edit out, so we just plug it in. We'll just take that shot from the commentary and plug it in.

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Also the other transition in the film is right after that controversial "turn around" scene with Carol - an exterior shot of the Enterprise and as we approach the bridge the black bars come down...

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antovolk said:


Also the other transition in the film is right after that controversial "turn around" scene with Carol - an exterior shot of the Enterprise and as we approach the bridge the black bars come down...
Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

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doubleofive said:

antovolk said:


Also the other transition in the film is right after that controversial "turn around" scene with Carol - an exterior shot of the Enterprise and as we approach the bridge the black bars come down...

Oh yeah, forgot about that one.

 That scene is just fine as well. No graphics overlaid upon it, so it's a clean shot.