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Post #700091

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DuracellEnergizer
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Date created
13-Apr-2014, 4:17 PM
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13-Apr-2014, 4:22 PM
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DuracellEnergizer
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DrCrowTStarwars said:

Are you really saying that there should be no action scenes of any kind in these movies?

No. I'm just saying that not everything has to be about giant robots, giant robots, alien invasions, world-conquering supervillains, etc. for it to have action in it. Smaller-scale stories -- ones about kidnappings, hostage situations, etc. -- are just as capable of delivering action as their bombastic cousins.

DrCrowTStarwars said:

Because each one seems to have been focused on the character,just with an adventure story. They have as many character moments as the original Star Wars movies and everything that happens is a direct reaction to our heroes.

*Everything else*

Okay. I'm going to list each of the MCU movies I've seen, and bring up my grievances with each of them.

Iron Man

I just didn't like Tony Stark's character. He came off as too much of a douchebag for me to root for him.

As for everything else -- the supporting cast, the villains, the story in general -- it was all just very average to me.

The Incredible Hulk

Liv Tyler was as bland as soggy toilet paper and Tim Roth's only motivation was penis envy. The rest of the movie was just a run-of-the-mill action movie that didn't do anything for me whatsoever.

Thor

The writer(s) cut out the Donald Blake aspect of the character -- removing the human element from Thor completely -- and just turned him into an arrogant blonde douchbag who meandered around the whole movie acting like an arrogant blonde douchbag until finally learning humility because the plot said he had to, not because the character actually showed any signs of progession or growth over the course of the movie's runtime.

While the actor who portrayed Loki did a good job with what he had to work with, the character in the movie basically was just an emo with daddy issues, far from the magnificent bastard of the comics.

Natalie Portman was a boring non-entity, just like always.

Tobar said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

The thing is is that if a superhero movie just doesn't click for me, I'm not going to give any of its sequels a chance. I need satisfactory characterization right off the bat, otherwise that's all she'll write.

There's your problem right there. The first set of films were to establish the characters. The post-Avengers aka Phase 2 films have all been about character growth and dealing with the aftermath of the Battle of New York. Iron Man 3 has Tony Stark dealing with PTSD, Thor 2 is about the relationship between he and his brother and Cap2 is about Steve Rogers trying to find his place in the world.

Ah, yes -- I have to watch the sequels to get the "full story". Just like I have to read the novels and the comics, watch the TV shows, and play the video games to get the "full story" of the prequels.

And therein lies another problem with superhero movies these days -- everything is written with sequels in mind. Nothing is self-contained anymore; everything has to be a fragment of a larger story.