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imperialscum
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Besides "The films need to be the way I want them," has Lucas stated anything as to why the Blu-rays became the travesty that they are?
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13-Apr-2014, 12:05 PM

Mike O said:

imperialscum said:

Mike O said:

I actually love that blue/green tone. That was the only good thing about 2004 release of OT.

Like it or dislike it, it's not how the film looked for 25 years prior to its Blu-ray release, and that, IMO, is not OK.

In digital form the colours of course do not degrade over time.

On the other hand, film stock have never looked the same over 25 years since it is constantly changing (degrading) the colours. At the time they scanned for DVD the colours were different from ones that were originally captured on set. Not to mention if they scanned a copy of the original footage. And even further, films stock could not have captured the exact colours that were percieved by the director's eyes at the time he setup the scene. So if the director thought that were not the colours he perceived at the time, I don't see why not try to reproduce them the way he wanted them.

Yes, and the type of film stock upon which Aliens was shot was difficult and discontinued thereafter. That's not the point. Did the film look exactly the same over the course of those 25 years? Maybe not. But over the course of time, it still had a very specific color palette which millions of fans came to know the film looked like. For the Blu release, Cameron specifically changed the look of the film to a way which it hadn't looked before. It's also a color-timing issue he applied to T1, and the teal and orange is currently trendy, so I question his "originally" comment anyway. It's NOT the way either of those films looked for decades. Cameron can pull a Lucas and say that's how he always intended them to look, but he's still changing something, and revising something, from how it's been known to look for decades. Obviously, how acceptable that is going to very from viewer to viewer, but it is significantly different. Maybe it is what he originally intended, but it's not film I came to love. Everyone looks like they have psoriasis on the new release. That screenshot alone clearly shows that it's completely different from the way it used to look. Unless of course Prometheus II: Deus Ex Machina reveals that the xenomorphs carried a pathogen or something.

My point is that over the course of 25 years fans did not experience relatively similar colour palette. Film stock degradation aside, just the difference between colours reproduced by the projection and the one on the film stock is considerable. I think projection is a bad technique and that's the reason why I rarely go to film theatres. If we go further, there is a huge colour difference between a modern LED screen and old CTR screen (there is even a considerable difference between my new LED and my old LCD). The actual difference between the instances I mentioned above can be as big as the difference between two screenshots you posted.