imperialscum said:
Mike O said:
I actually love that blue/green tone. That was the only good thing about 2004 release of OT.
Like it or dislike it, it's not how the film looked for 25 years prior to its Blu-ray release, and that, IMO, is not OK.
In digital form the colours of course do not degrade over time.
On the other hand, film stock have never looked the same over 25 years since it is constantly changing (degrading) the colours. At the time they scanned for DVD the colours were different from ones that were originally captured on set. Not to mention if they scanned a copy of the original footage. And even further, films stock could not have captured the exact colours that were percieved by the director's eyes at the time he setup the scene. So if the director thought that were not the colours he perceived at the time, I don't see why not try to reproduce them the way he wanted them.
Yes, and the type of film stock upon which Aliens was shot was difficult and discontinued thereafter. That's not the point. Did the film look exactly the same over the course of those 25 years? Maybe not. But over the course of time, it still had a very specific color palette which millions of fans came to know the film looked like. For the Blu release, Cameron specifically changed the look of the film to a way which it hadn't looked before. It's also a color-timing issue he applied to T1, and the teal and orange is currently trendy, so I question his "originally" comment anyway. It's NOT the way either of those films looked for decades. Cameron can pull a Lucas and say that's how he always intended them to look, but he's still changing something, and revising something, from how it's been known to look for decades. Obviously, how acceptable that is going to very from viewer to viewer, but it is significantly different. Maybe it is what he originally intended, but it's not film I came to love. Everyone looks like they have psoriasis on the new release. That screenshot alone clearly shows that it's completely different from the way it used to look. Unless of course Prometheus II: Deus Ex Machina reveals that the xenomorphs carried a pathogen or something.
JayArgonaut said:
SilverWook said:
Wait a minute. The whole raison d'etre for the 1997 versions, was George felt the OOT were unfinished works, because he didn't have enough time and money originally to achieve his "vision".
So, he essentially leaves them unfinished again, on purpose this time?
Good point. Lucas' rationale just doesn't hold up to serious scrutiny. It's the stuff of satire that would make Orwell, Kafka and Heller proud.
Here's an infamous quote from 2004 by LFL's VP of marketing, Jim Ward in response to the demand for the original versions:
We love our fans but this is about art and filmmaking.
As a point of integrity, an organization that loves their fans and is truly concerned "about art and filmmaking" wouldn't deliberately release an unfinished product with the founder claiming during interviews that the release fulfills their "vision." (On a side note, a company that loves their fans and is committed to the ideals of art and filmmaking wouldn't suppress the availability of their films, nor would they release vandalized versions in the first place.)
As with much of digital revisionism Lucas practices, his so-called "original vision" has changed at least 3 times. Moreover, if that was his "original vision," he shouldn't have released the GOUT. Then he'd have at least stuck to his guns even if I'd have disliked him and disagreed with him. Now he's pretty much contradicted everything he himself has said.