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What do you HATE about the EU? — Page 14

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While I don't hate them, per se, I'm not fond of the Jabba the Hutt comics that were produced in the '90s. The scenes with Jabba eating full-sized humanoids were just distasteful.

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darklordoftech said:

This isn't a criticism of the fact that the SWTOR Sith are human, but rather of how the SWTOR Sith being human was explained. The explanation that we're given is that the red alien genes were bred out. However, in TOTJ, and even the timeline of SWTOR's own website, it's the human genes that have been bred out. Therefore, SWTOR should have mentioned a massive human population joining the red alien population.

The way I see it is that after Great Hyperspace War most of the Sith and Sith-Human hybrid were targeted and killed by the Republic. To fill the void, they just integrated a huge amount of humans from various colonies. So that way the Sith genes were in minority from the beginning. However in one SWTOR missions it is stated that 98% of all imperial population have Sith genetic material. This kind of complicates the upper explanation.

Btw I am not trying to start any argument. :P

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imperialscum said: The way I see it is that after Great Hyperspace War most of the Sith and Sith-Human hybrid were targeted and killed by the Republic. To fill the void, they just integrated a huge amount of humans from various colonies. So that way the Sith genes were in minority from the beginning. However in one SWTOR missions it is stated that 98% of all imperial population have Sith genetic material. This kind of complicates the upper explanation.

I actually love this idea. I'd say that the surviving Sith and hybrids were so desparate that they breeded with people from their colonies.

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Tobar said:

That these guys aren't Bothans:

 Really? Are you genuinely troubled that a made-up connection between a background character and a throwaway line isn't somehow canonical?

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I hate how the EU has overshadowed the movies in some circles. The EU's fans seem to think that Thrawn and KOTOR are better than the OOT.

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That it influenced the prequels for the worse. I suspect that the EU made Lucas think that he could get away with making bad prequels.

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darklordoftech said:

That it influenced the prequels for the worse. I suspect that the EU made Lucas think that he could get away with making bad prequels.

 Quoted for truth.  (wish there was a "like" feature.)

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Judging by ROTJ, Lucas was already steering the Star Wars film franchise into banality long before the modern EU got on its feet; I don't think a better/smaller/non-existent EU would have necessarily paved the way for a good PT.  

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KOTOR II. The protagonist seems to be some sort of Chosen One and KOTOR II introduced the "true Sith" nonsense (have mercy on me, Imperialscum) and lots of nonsensical philosophy.

I also hate KOTOR's timeline placement. If you're don't want to connect to TOTJ, don't set the story near TOTJ. KOTOR could have been set during the New Sith Wars.

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As all of the post-Great Sith War wars dealing with the Sith are virtually indistinguishable from one another, they all could have been set during the New Sith Wars.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

As all of the post-Great Sith War wars dealing with the Sith are virtually indistinguishable from one another, they all could have been set during the New Sith Wars.

Exactly.

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Chewbacca RIP

The movie theater is my church and my holy trinity is a Trilogy.

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The Empire convincing people to forget about The Force. 20 years won't make people forget!

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darklordoftech said:

The Empire convincing people to forget about The Force. 20 years won't make people forget!

It is the PT fault because it portrayed the force ability as something widely known and attached a "movie star" like status to Jedi.

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imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

The Empire convincing people to forget about The Force. 20 years won't make people forget!

It is the PT fault because it portrayed the force ability as something widely known and attached a "movie star" like status to Jedi.

True, but two wrongs don't make a right.

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darklordoftech said:

The Empire convincing people to forget about The Force. 20 years won't make people forget!

 I don't know if you can pin that one on the EU.

HAN: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good

blaster at your side, kid.

LUKE: You don't believe in the Force, do you?

HAN: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've

seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me

believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's

no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.

Ben smiles quietly

HAN: It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.

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Tobar said:

HAN: Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good

blaster at your side, kid.

LUKE: You don't believe in the Force, do you?

HAN: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've

seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me

believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's

no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.

Ben smiles quietly

HAN: It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.

I don't see anything about Imperial revisionism there.

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I see someone who has forgotten about the Force.

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Nobody 'forgot' about the Force.  As presented in the original film, it is clear we are supposed to think that it was never widely known in the first place, and that the people who have heard of it probably always thought it was mythical rubbish anyway.

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At any rate, I think everyone here can agree that the portrayal of the Jedi as big, huge, prominent superheroes was a huge mistake.

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hairy_hen said:

Nobody 'forgot' about the Force.  As presented in the original film, it is clear we are supposed to think that it was never widely known in the first place, and that the people who have heard of it probably always thought it was mythical rubbish anyway.

Exactly my point.

DuracellEnergizer said:

At any rate, I think everyone here can agree that the portrayal of the Jedi as big, huge, prominent superheroes was a huge mistake.

This is true as well.

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darklordoftech said:

hairy_hen said:

Nobody 'forgot' about the Force.  As presented in the original film, it is clear we are supposed to think that it was never widely known in the first place, and that the people who have heard of it probably always thought it was mythical rubbish anyway.

Exactly my point.

 You could have said that in the first place, as I agree with that completely. =P

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- Darths before Bane and after Vader (and yes, I know that the prequels are at fault for Darths other than Vader).

- How Karpyshan totally ruined Bane.