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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD - V2.0 - MKV & AVCHD (Released) — Page 49

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those that appear and disappear under the star destroyer.

looking for HDTV of the  Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.  Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

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Oh, that! In the 1st WP it was there because I used the 97SE for the whole shot but yes, you're right, I'll totally restore that. I totally forgot about it - this is why I have a WP out in the first place.

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Harmy, I'd love to help you out any way I can.  I'm a bit new to this forum, so I'm not that familiar with JDownloader.  If somebody could talk me through it a little bit, I'd be happy to join the pool of focus testers.  It'd be my pleasure! 

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Wow, Jdownloader has a Linux client... who knew...

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Watching it now, overall I'm very impressed.  Quite an increase in clarity and depth over what I remember from v1.0.  Colors overall have my approval, pretty natural feeling (maybe a touch purpleish around 21:22 through 22:00ish (could be wrong, but that was something I thought the first time through... perhaps I'm just jaded against Star Wars explosions).  The Imperial fleet looks pretty darn good with your color timing, even if you had to use SE recomps, at least it feels like Star Wars in the context of your version, and looks pretty snazzy.  I'd say definitely go with this over GOUT upscales until Negative1 sources are available.

I know this doesn't affect the purpose of the workprint in any way, but has anyone else had an issue with the aac 5.1 track decoding such that the center channel is in the Left Surround speaker?  It could just be how this one system is handling non-passthrough audio, but it is still very, very odd.

Also, in viewing it this time (and now that I think about it, with a Firefly/Serenity comicbook expansion story coming to mind), could Admiral Oswald, rather than being clumsy or stupid, instead be a highly placed Rebel plant or a Rebel sympathizer, and that is why he both tried to overlook their actual location and arrived close enough for the fleet to be detected?  Instead of being a moron, he may actually have been a Rebel hero, murdered by Darth Vader, who probably figured out all of this and killed him without letting anyone else know why (so as to keep up moral, as best one can while still seeming to kill off officers at will....).  Just a thought.

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I must say, your theory makes sense from a sub-textual standpoint.  There was a Cracked article that basically said that Stormtroopers always missed because they were secretly Rebel sympathizers. 

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yoda-sama said:

could Admiral Oswald, rather than being clumsy or stupid, instead be a highly placed Rebel plant or a Rebel sympathizer?

It's Ozzel, or are you merging your conspiracy theories to save space? ;-)

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yoda-sama said:

[...] Also, in viewing it this time (and now that I think about it, with a Firefly/Serenity comicbook expansion story coming to mind), could Admiral Oswald, rather than being clumsy or stupid, instead be a highly placed Rebel plant or a Rebel sympathizer, and that is why he both tried to overlook their actual location and arrived close enough for the fleet to be detected?  Instead of being a moron, he may actually have been a Rebel hero, murdered by Darth Vader, who probably figured out all of this and killed him without letting anyone else know why (so as to keep up moral, as best one can while still seeming to kill off officers at will....).  Just a thought.

 I thought that too at the second time I watched ESB.

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If the workprint had subtitles I would have doubled checked that name, but we can't ask for everything from a workprint.  Anyone else have that audio issue, btw?

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Just downloaded your screenshots and they looked awesome Harmy. Can see the difference between the two quite distinctly. Quite a big step-up.

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I finally got around to watching the workprint, the difference is huge. Amazing work, Harmy. I never noticed how pink all the faces were in v1.0. :) Also, the blacks are so much better now.

Do you plan to release v2.0s as MKV?

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Yeah, I originally wasn't going to but now, with the new computer, I can render it in just a few hours and the quality difference between my AVCHD and MKV test encodes was quite big.

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That's nice, MKV's are more convenient in my opinion. All modern TVs can play it from external hard drive, and burning to BR is also an option.

Do you consider making 1080p releases now? As far as I remember rendering times were the main reason to go with 720p.

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I thought about it but for now, I think I'll be sticking to 720p - the other reasons I decided for it still stand. Maybe if there's ever a 3.0 version :-)

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The results with 720p on this project have been phenomenal, the only reason I'd see to consider 1080p would be to address 720p/24fps compatibility issues some people have complained about with blu-ray players (that resolution and frame rate are hardly common in retail).  Still, that probably only should be something to concern yourself with at the time of a full blu-ray release (quantity of audio tracks would likely be adversely affected, though, so there's a lot to consider there)..

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Yes, 1080p would need a much higher bitrate - the only way to address that while keeping everything else as is, would be to make it a BD50, which is something I find very impractical and would like to avoid.

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@ Harmy

Is there any chance to get rid of those bright boxes around the Falcon and the TIE fighters at 00:36:42 - 00:36:44? This problem was much less prominent before Lowry "restored" the material though your workprint is already an improvement over 2004.

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n00b said:

@ Harmy

Is there any chance to get rid of those bright boxes around the Falcon and the TIE fighters at 00:36:42 - 00:36:44? This problem was much less prominent before Lowry "restored" the material though your workprint is already an improvement over 2004.

I don't have the WP downloaded. Are you, perhaps, referring to garbage mattes?

If so, then wouldn't garbage matte removal be a "specialization" rather than "despecialization"?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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AntcuFaalb said:

n00b said:

@ Harmy

Is there any chance to get rid of those bright boxes around the Falcon and the TIE fighters at 00:36:42 - 00:36:44? This problem was much less prominent before Lowry "restored" the material though your workprint is already an improvement over 2004.

I don't have the WP downloaded. Are you, perhaps, referring to garbage mattes?

If so, then wouldn't garbage matte removal be a "specialization" rather than "despecialization"?

 Not if the garbage mattes weren't visible in theatres in 1977, due to the differences in film projection vs modern systems.

In short, no.

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AntcuFaalb said:

I don't have the WP downloaded. Are you, perhaps, referring to garbage mattes?

If so, then wouldn't garbage matte removal be a "specialization" rather than "despecialization"?

Yes, I'm referring to garbage mattes but they were nearly invisible in this scene before the digital remastering. Therefore, I'd consider them as damage like the crushed blacks and the crossed lightsabers in front of the Emperor's face.

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Maybe it was always there, but became noticeable only on Blu-ray due to high resolution.

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timdiggerm said:

AntcuFaalb said:

n00b said:

@ Harmy

Is there any chance to get rid of those bright boxes around the Falcon and the TIE fighters at 00:36:42 - 00:36:44? This problem was much less prominent before Lowry "restored" the material though your workprint is already an improvement over 2004.

I don't have the WP downloaded. Are you, perhaps, referring to garbage mattes?

If so, then wouldn't garbage matte removal be a "specialization" rather than "despecialization"?

 Not if the garbage mattes weren't visible in theatres in 1977, due to the differences in film projection vs modern systems.

In short, no.

Visibility would depend on the theater, no? I'm sure there were many crappy theaters in 1977/1980/1983 that used way-too-bright projection bulbs.

I've never had a good understanding of what exactly Harmy's intentions are with his Despecialized Editions. That is, is he shooting for (1) "what's on a theatrical print" or (2) "what would have been visible to the audience during the original theatrical run(s)"?

A good example of my confusion is illustrated by the fact that:

1. Harmy restored several compositing errors that were scrubbed away by Lowry's process for SW DeEd 2.0/2.1/2.5. Some of these were anomalies in a single frame that were likely not noticed by many during the original theatrical run(s).

2. Harmy did not restore all of the original wipes in SW DeEd 2.0/2.1/2.5 and, in many cases, left in the optical wipes that were created by Pacific Titles for the 97SE.

Harmy: I'm not trying to talk-down your work. I'm genuinely confused and I hope you can clear this up. As I've always stated: you do fantastic work and I'm consistently impressed with the quality of your output.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Feallan said:

Maybe it was always there, but became noticeable only on Blu-ray due to high resolution.

 Of course, it was always there. Otherwise, it wouldn't be identifiable as garbage mattes. The problem is that the contrast of those garbage mattes was increased by the remastering.