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Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3 you may direct your insults at me, thank you.

But you're Fo 1.

 No, he's Fo 0 -- or, alternatively -- F0.

I prefer sweet FA

DuracellEnergizer said:

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3 you may direct your insults at me, thank you.

But you're Fo 1.

 No, he's Fo 0 -- or, alternatively -- F0.

 Then why is his name Fo 1?

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

You are assuming there is a connection based on your view of the world or possibly personal experience.  I am sorry if you have not been treated well just for being who you are. 

I do NOT believe people who are gay are also pedophiles.  That is ludicrous.  I do realize however that there is a lot of this going on in the world.  Since I don't agree with it I fail to see how your comparison reflects on who I am. 

The internet is a cold place so words in a any conversation can be made to look like they are saying what they are not.  You might consider taking your own advice when it comes to judging people.       

TV's Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3 you may direct your insults at me, thank you.

But you're Fo 1.

 No, he's Fo 0 -- or, alternatively -- F0.

 Then why is his name Fo 1?

You need help.  

You need to get a sense of humour (one that recognizes a greater variety of humour) and stop being bugged by Frink so much. :P

When did this rivalry between Frink and Fo 0/1/etc. begin, anyway? This current stream of bickering between the two only seems to have begun a few months ago.

Yep.  He started whining about me in the preservation section (at least I think that's where it was) just a little while back.  Prior to that I had no interest in who Fo 1 was.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Team-Negative1-The-Empire-Strikes-Back-1980-35mm-Theatrical-Version-Release-Details-and-Updates/post/672654/#TopicPost672654

One of the earliest ones I recall.  November.

As far as I can make out, there's a F0 out there somewhere who is doing some really great work on cinema DTS discs.

Then there's what is apparently the sock named Fo 1, an alternate identity whom we have learned takes inexplicable offense with the mere existence of Fink; and another sock called Fo 2, who takes even greater umbrage with Fink and is inclined to some unfortunate rage issues about it.

But what's most interesting of all is the recent discovery of Zuul Fo 3, who emerges from seemingly-innocuous refrigerators and is theorized by scientists to have taken over as the true identity behind them all.  Extreme caution is advised.

DuracellEnergizer said:

When did this rivalry between Frink and Fo 0/1/etc. begin, anyway? This current stream of bickering between the two only seems to have begun a few months ago.

Well, there were 2 things that bugged me right off about him.  His nonsensical posts in the preservation threads that added nothing of value to anything going on there and his bitching about losing his sock and wanting it back even though others had lost theirs and weren't near as sore about it as he was.  And there was all his -1 conspiracy theory crap he kept yammering on about in the thread he posted about above, so that makes 3 things.

I guess I don't play well with those who can't ever admit to maybe having gone overboard a bit.  I mean it happens to us all, myself included.  I also don't play well with those who won't take responsibility any for their part in something until after the other party does. 

I'd still take a ban if he got one too.  It would be a badge of honor for me.  

If that is being whiny than I am 100% guilty of it.

:)

hairy_hen said:

As far as I can make out, there's a F0 out there somewhere who is doing some really great work on cinema DTS discs.

Then there's what is apparently the sock named Fo 1, an alternate identity whom we have learned takes inexplicable offense with the mere existence of Fink; and another sock called Fo 2, who takes even greater umbrage with Fink and is inclined to some unfortunate rage issues about it.

But what's most interesting of all is the recent discovery of Zuul Fo 3, who emerges from seemingly-innocuous refrigerators and is theorized by scientists to have taken over as the true identity behind them all.  Extreme caution is advised.

LOL, no-one here is perfect, right?  Well maybe except for Jay and possibly Moth3r.  Now, since socks are no longer allowed I only post under the only account I have which is this one. 

I have to say you do make some convincing arguments for the possible existence of other "me's" running around here.  It is conceivable that tears in the space-time continuum have created alternate versions of myself.  It is not unheard of.  It is also possible that dimensional beings have kidnapped the real me and placed substitutes of me in different time lines to cause certain anomalies for purposes only known to them.

Zuul could very well be the source of all this and if he is, he needs to be sought out and have his carcass sent back to whatever poorly designed and run refrigerator repair shop that set him free.

Here's to hoping ....... 

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am 100% guilty

Neglify said:

I like that Frink-a-delic has his rivalry origin story bookmarked. 

 They don't call me Master of the Lore for nothing.

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

You are assuming there is a connection based on your view of the world or possibly personal experience.  I am sorry if you have not been treated well just for being who you are. 

I do NOT believe people who are gay are also pedophiles.  That is ludicrous.  I do realize however that there is a lot of this going on in the world.  Since I don't agree with it I fail to see how your comparison reflects on who I am. 

The internet is a cold place so words in a any conversation can be made to look like they are saying what they are not.  You might consider taking your own advice when it comes to judging people.       

Since sitting down and thinking about it isn't helping you I will spell it out. You think it's okay for me to be myself with the proviso that I don't force myself on other people.

That's like telling a Romani it's okay to send his children to the same school as your children as long as they don't steal cars, drown cats and guilt trip the teachers into buying their clothes pegs and sprigs of heather.

Now do you get it?

TV's Frink said:

Neglify said:

I like that Frink-a-delic has his rivalry origin story bookmarked. 

 They don't call me Master of the Lore for nothing.

You're master of something alright ....... as there is no rivalry between us. 

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

You are assuming there is a connection based on your view of the world or possibly personal experience.  I am sorry if you have not been treated well just for being who you are. 

I do NOT believe people who are gay are also pedophiles.  That is ludicrous.  I do realize however that there is a lot of this going on in the world.  Since I don't agree with it I fail to see how your comparison reflects on who I am. 

The internet is a cold place so words in a any conversation can be made to look like they are saying what they are not.  You might consider taking your own advice when it comes to judging people.       

Since sitting down and thinking about it isn't helping you I will spell it out. You think it's okay for me to be myself with the proviso that I don't force myself on other people.

That's like telling a Romani it's okay to send his children to the same school as your children as long as they don't steal cars, drown cats and guilt trip the teachers into buying their clothes pegs and sprigs of heather.

Now do you get it?

Well, I still think you and I aren't connecting on this ... by your words, I get that you are saying that it would be okay for you as a gay man it is okay for you to force it on someone who is not though I don't think that's what you meant. 

That is not what I meant. 

As a heterosexual man, it is NOT okay for me to force my beliefs on you.  Understanding we have different likes is great but I don't see how it would be okay for you to tell me I have to be gay just because you are.  Maybe how I spoke was incorrect for the point I was making. 

Now do you get it?  

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am 100% guilty

 

So you ARE Mother Theresa.  Glad to see all of us are in good company here.

I LOVE how you conveniently omit the rest of the sentence to manipulate it's meaning in your favor. 

AntcuFaalb said:

Jetrell Fo said:

As a heterosexual man, it is NOT okay for me to force my beliefs on you.

Let's stop speaking abstractly.

1. What exactly does it mean for a homosexual man to force his beliefs on someone else? An example or two is fine in lieu of a precise definition.

2. What exactly does it mean for a heterosexual man to force his beliefs on someone else? An example or two is fine here as well.

I believe the issue is with the word "force".  I would never tell my daughter she couldn't go to school with or have gay friends.  I would never tell my daughter she couldn't be gay.  Now, if I said, knowing she was gay, that she could not be and I tried to force her to be heterosexual .... that is NOT acceptable to me.

Does that help any?

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

You are assuming there is a connection based on your view of the world or possibly personal experience.  I am sorry if you have not been treated well just for being who you are. 

I do NOT believe people who are gay are also pedophiles.  That is ludicrous.  I do realize however that there is a lot of this going on in the world.  Since I don't agree with it I fail to see how your comparison reflects on who I am. 

The internet is a cold place so words in a any conversation can be made to look like they are saying what they are not.  You might consider taking your own advice when it comes to judging people.       

Since sitting down and thinking about it isn't helping you I will spell it out. You think it's okay for me to be myself with the proviso that I don't force myself on other people.

That's like telling a Romani it's okay to send his children to the same school as your children as long as they don't steal cars, drown cats and guilt trip the teachers into buying their clothes pegs and sprigs of heather.

Now do you get it?

Well, I still think you and I aren't connecting on this ... by your words, I get that you are saying that it would be okay for you as a gay man it is okay for you to force it on someone who is not though I don't think that's what you meant. 

That is not what I meant. 

As a heterosexual man, it is NOT okay for me to force my beliefs on you.  Understanding we have different likes is great but I don't see how it would be okay for you to tell me I have to be gay just because you are.  Maybe how I spoke was incorrect for the point I was making. 

Now do you get it?  

No I don't get it where you get off thinking gay people are trying convert straight people.

There are plenty of examples of the other way round but in my life I have never encountered a serious attempt on the part of a gay person to encourage or convert a heterosexual.

Unless my unconditional acceptance of your situation is somehow a different circumstance why mention it as a conditional addition to acceptance of my situation?

Maybe you didn't mean that.

Maybe you meant that I shouldn't be overtly open or vocal about my sexuality.

In which case try and cock your ear to the numerous references to heterosexuality that heterosexuals drop into everyday speech and imaging a world where that was frowned upon or forbidden.

What dull inarticulate place that would be.

No talking about spouses or children or the attractive physical qualities of people you admire or find in art or photography or literature. It would be hell on Earth and I don't want you to live there so why should anyone wish me to live there?

People should have equality in their lives regardless of any variance they have from a perceived norm. I'll happily force that view on anyone and everyone.

If you don't like that, tough.

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Bingowings said:

Jetrell Fo said:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

You can't see the connection?

There is a lot of this sort of the thing going around at the moment. All I can suggest is maybe sitting down and really thinking hard about it, that might yield results.

You are assuming there is a connection based on your view of the world or possibly personal experience.  I am sorry if you have not been treated well just for being who you are. 

I do NOT believe people who are gay are also pedophiles.  That is ludicrous.  I do realize however that there is a lot of this going on in the world.  Since I don't agree with it I fail to see how your comparison reflects on who I am. 

The internet is a cold place so words in a any conversation can be made to look like they are saying what they are not.  You might consider taking your own advice when it comes to judging people.       

Since sitting down and thinking about it isn't helping you I will spell it out. You think it's okay for me to be myself with the proviso that I don't force myself on other people.

That's like telling a Romani it's okay to send his children to the same school as your children as long as they don't steal cars, drown cats and guilt trip the teachers into buying their clothes pegs and sprigs of heather.

Now do you get it?

Well, I still think you and I aren't connecting on this ... by your words, I get that you are saying that it would be okay for you as a gay man it is okay for you to force it on someone who is not though I don't think that's what you meant. 

That is not what I meant. 

As a heterosexual man, it is NOT okay for me to force my beliefs on you.  Understanding we have different likes is great but I don't see how it would be okay for you to tell me I have to be gay just because you are.  Maybe how I spoke was incorrect for the point I was making. 

Now do you get it?  

No I don't get it where you get off thinking gay people are trying convert straight people.

There are plenty of examples of the other way round but in my life I have never encountered a serious attempt on the part of a gay person to encourage or convert a heterosexual.

Unless my unconditional acceptance of your situation is somehow a different circumstance why mention it as a conditional addition to acceptance of my situation?

Maybe you didn't mean that.

Maybe you meant that I shouldn't be overtly open or vocal about my sexuality.

In which case try and cock your ear to the numerous references to heterosexuality that heterosexuals drop into everyday speech and imaging a world where that was frowned upon or forbidden.

What dull inarticulate place that would be.

No talking about spouses or children or the attractive physical qualities of people you admire or find in art or photography or literature. It would be hell on Earth and I don't want you to live there so why should anyone wish me to live there?

People should have equality in their lives regardless of any variance they have from a perceived norm. I'll happily force that view on anyone and everyone.

If you don't like that, tough.

Wow, just wow.  You have implied something that was not stated or thought by me.  You just went and made it all about you, nothing more. 

If you think for one minute that there aren't or haven't been ANY people EVER who've tried to force their beliefs on someone else you are living in a cave of wonderment that only you can see. 

This almost makes me feel like I'm talking to Frink.  I also understand why Warbler sees and feels the way he does about you.  You apparently have time to find compassion for yourself, just not others.  Great thing that equality you speak of is, isn't it?

:(