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Jetrell Fo said:

Oddly enough, the conversation about being born gay is one I've had with some of my own gay friends.  I have had some pretty shady gay friends on FB that preach vehemently that it is fact.

I did my own research and found that the truth is scientists do not have 100% proof that this is true.  The believe it to be the case but cannot nail down the gene's or proteins they believe to be responsible for being born gay.  They are still searching.

My FB friend called me a slew of horrible names before defriending me because he felt I was just trying to be mean towards gays.

 For what it's worth, can anyone pinpoint the gene that makes someone hetero? Is that really the standard you're holding it too? Where's the 100% scientific consensus on that? 

I'm not a geneticist, but homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom. Do we assume that a dude sheep that does another dude sheep chose that, or was influenced too much by media? Just trying to make his parents mad? 

...

and just so I understand this. You made a gay friend on FB, who you then badgered about your belief that he wasn't born gay, and he's the shady one? Really?

Was what needed?

Sheep parents are the worst.

TheBoost said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Oddly enough, the conversation about being born gay is one I've had with some of my own gay friends.  I have had some pretty shady gay friends on FB that preach vehemently that it is fact.

I did my own research and found that the truth is scientists do not have 100% proof that this is true.  The believe it to be the case but cannot nail down the gene's or proteins they believe to be responsible for being born gay.  They are still searching.

My FB friend called me a slew of horrible names before defriending me because he felt I was just trying to be mean towards gays.

 For what it's worth, can anyone pinpoint the gene that makes someone hetero? Is that really the standard you're holding it too? Where's the 100% scientific consensus on that? 

I'm not a geneticist, but homosexuality is rampant in the animal kingdom. Do we assume that a dude sheep that does another dude sheep chose that, or was influenced too much by media? Just trying to make his parents mad? 

...

and just so I understand this. You made a gay friend on FB, who you then badgered about your belief that he wasn't born gay, and he's the shady one? Really?

I was joining the conversation not judging anyone.  So no, you understand incorrectly.  Since we don't know each other personally I can see why you might misinterpret something I've said.  If you are just looking for a fight, you will not find it here.

TV's Frink said:

No one is forcing you to be gay, Fo 1.  Get over yourself.

Yeah, okay, you got nothing so move along won't you.

Bingowings said:

The human genome has only recently been mapped and we don't know what all the genes in a banana do. Also not all biological determinants are genetic. Chemicals introduced into the placenta can effect the development of the fetus. Maybe it was all those Malteasers my mother craved during pregnancy?

It's observed in nature and not just opportunistic sex (you find animals of the same gender pair bonding).

I certainly never chose to be homosexual.

It's very restrictive, most people aren't homosexual so the chances of meeting someone and clicking with them enough to get to know them and maybe enter into a relationship and marrying them are lowered drastically (especially when it's illegal).

Then there is all the name calling, the violence, the nonsense written on the internet and on the news etc

It would be a lot easier for me if I wasn't in this state so I doubt I would have chosen it as I'm by nature indolent most of the time.

Outside theocracies anyone following a religion chooses to and chooses to believe things without recourse to reason. That is not the same thing as finding yourself attracted to the same gender.

You don't have to believe anything to be homosexual you just have to fancy one section of the population over another.

It's no different from being attracted to people with ginger hair.

Calling any attraction to people with ginger hair stupid would be pretty stupid, especially it came from a book where the prejudice is attributed to a bronze age desert God.

See the distinction?

 You may be misunderstanding me as well.  The person I had the argument with believed 100% that it was proven scientifically that gay people were born gay.  I argued against it because we cannot even prove which genes or proteins might make one heterosexual. 

I believe that people should follow their dreams and be happy, safe, and healthy.  I begrudge no-one who may like something that I do not, it is what makes us all unique.

Sorry if you felt I was saying otherwise.

I agree there is no definite proof that homosexuality is genetically determined or heterosexuality, bisexuality or asexuality for that matter but I do know there is no moment where I chose my sexuality.

I gave heterosexuality a good go despite my instincts otherwise and it just didn't work (well it worked but it didn't feel right) and I felt it unfair to the women involved to continue down that road.

But it does appear in nature and there are other biological determinants.

I dread the appearance of a genetic proof because it would result in less diversity in the population which will continue to explode without the tiny pressure valve of homosexuals who don't reproduce.

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

TV's Frink said:

No one is forcing you to be gay, Fo 1.  Get over yourself.

Yeah, okay, you got nothing so move along won't you.

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

^It's a reasonable position and I feel sure that Jetrell will make a fine host for the next Winter Olympics.

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

TV's Frink said:

No one is forcing you to be gay, Fo 1.  Get over yourself.

Yeah, okay, you got nothing so move along won't you.

 

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

Wow, you are really reaching for anything to justify an asshat response aren't you?

@Bingo ...... may I ask why you reference the Winter Olympics with regards to me in that last post?

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

TV's Frink said:

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

TV's Frink said:

No one is forcing you to be gay, Fo 1.  Get over yourself.

Yeah, okay, you got nothing so move along won't you.

 

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

I am fine with people of the world pursuing the lifestyle of their choice as long as it's not forced on others ....

Wow, you are really reaching for anything to justify an asshat response aren't you?

 Well then, perhaps you'd like to better explain what you meant.

There should be no need for an explanation ..... it's pretty simple ..... Frink didn't like that he was forced to give up Ric_Olie right?  Most people don't like having others standards of livings forced on them.  We have straight people in the world that try to force their ideals on gay people and it goes just the same for some of the gay people .... but not all on either side.  Most folks are just happy being who they are.      

I meant nothing else but that.  As for what Putin said, I will have to google it because I have no idea, I will check it out, thanks Ryan.

JEDIT:

I'm guessing Bingo means this .....

“One can feel calm and at ease,” he said. “Just leave kids alone, please.” 

Apparently referring to gay people as pedophiles I'm guessing because they're gay.

Well Bingo, this is kinda of a nasty comparison to what I said.  This is NOT what I said so I'm unsure of how you felt this was an appropriate interpretation.  I will tell you that I will not tolerate such things being said about me, ask Frink, he knows.  You can do far more harm to people you don't even know by even stating things like this openly.  I have no issue with you, nor do I want one.  If your comment is serious ...... I will have no problem having an issue with you.  

Fink being forced to give up Ric Olie is, of course, entirely equivalent to the issue of sexual orientation.

Clearly this was a comment made by the Fo 2 sock, so we'll give Fo 1 the benefit of the doubt this time.

Deleted, not worth it.

@ hairy_hen & Frink .....

Okay Mother Theresa & Jesus ...... let me guess .... always the victims, never the perpetrators, right? 

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3 you may direct your insults at me, thank you.

TV's Frink said:

Deleted, not worth it.

 Wow, what an insult.

^You're in this thread, too. =P

And yet Rob shows no signs of being in here.

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3

There is no Dana, only Zuul.

Jetrell Fo 1 said:

Since there is NO Fo1, Fo2, OR Fo3 you may direct your insults at me, thank you.

But you're Fo 1.