thanks for the feedback im gonna start v3.0 2nt ((sorry for anyone who already downloaded it and is dissapointed with it)) (in reality its probably v327.4 by now! been working on it since february!)

i had alot of problems with the bitarate once it was burned to blu-ray (i rendered it at 100 cbr which played fine on the pc but stuttured on the players, so i did process of elimination and lowered it ending on 17 or 24 iirc it then played perfectly on the blu ray players ((2 panasonics and a toshiba)))

if anyone has any ideas or advice on the encoding im all ears! (ended up using adobe elements 12 as everything else failed on me! and my premiere didnt like the files!)