m_s0 said:
imperialscum said:
m_s0 said:
You're missing the point. Making the environment unpleasant to look at conveys its harshness. It doesn't matter whether it was an intentional decision or an accident resulting from the limitations during the actual shoot, or budget restrictions, or whatever else. Tatooine isn't set up as a magical place. Quite the contrary: it's a dump.
No, I am not missing the point. I just don't agree with that point. Most should easily recognise a harsh environment even if it visually nice. I believe these films aren't specifically made for mentally challenged people and there is no need to make everything plain obvious.
I disagree with your (quite bizarre, the way I see it) logic. You're creating a standalone world for the purpose of the movie. Any preconceptions the audience might have going into the movie shouldn't matter one way or the other. If you make a place that is set up as uninviting visually "magical" you create a dissonance that works to the detriment of the process of worldbuilding, works against the narrative of the movie and ultimately undermines the viewer's suspension of disbelief. What you (choose to) show and don't show is of vital importance.
To illustrate my point of view: let's say you're photographer and you're working on an exhibition about poverty and/or hunger in Africa. You go there, you do your thing, you bring back a truckload of photographs of gorgeous vistas, beautiful nature, animals etc. and nothing more. Somebody asks you: where's the poverty and why are all of the photos so nice and pretty? Your reponse (according to your logic): people aren't mentally challenged, they know all about Africa, so there's no need for that nasty stuff. Instead, here's some pretty pictures. Enjoy.I guess Dagobah comes the closest to what you'd call "magical", but even that is due to Yoda and the Force more than to Dagobah itself. Hoth, on the other hand, is diametrically opposed to anything I'd view as "magical".
tl;dr: I completely disagree with almost everything you've written :P
Well I guess we just don't agree on the matter. And your example does not properly encapsulate the given SW situation since in your example there is a complete change of the main topic of photos. In case of Tatooine, the main topic remains the same; Tatooine is physically inhospitable place. The degree of visual pleasantness has no effect on the main topic.
In SW Tatooine is physically desolate and harsh place... i.e. desert. Yet the desert is on many occasions visually beautiful place. So distorting the visual reality (intentionally of unintentionally) to additionally and unnecessarily emphasis the physical inhospitality is just dumb.
Let me put it like this. You have a character who has a very unpleasant personality. Does that mean you have cast someone visually unpleasant (i.e. ugly) to play that character?