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as for the outnumbered/gunned rebels:

maybe mor action from the cannons/batteries would improve the impression, that they not just throw rocks at mountains ... ?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DF.9_anti-infantry_battery

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/1.4_FD_P-Tower_laser_cannon

setting up the "defense-tench":

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131006055952/starwars/images/7/7e/EchoBase-TCGtSfS.png

even this picture gives a different situation, or not ?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070612034839/starwars/images/e/ee/Battlefront_promoart.jpg

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About the pointless of the ground rebel troops: well, if someone at ground during the battle said: "shoot at the weapons in the walkers!" you could have the ground troops trying to destroy the weapons (they shouldn't be as strong as the armor of the walkers). That would give the troopers something to do during the battle ( you could even having a AT AT weapon being destroyed this way to show that the ground rebels actually did something).

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Another option would be that the rebel troops would shoot the AT ST walkers. They are smaller and their armor shouldn't be strong as the AT AT (otherwise the armor would be too heavy for an AT ST to carry).

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iamweasel said:

Another option would be that the rebel troops would shoot the AT ST walkers. They are smaller and their armor shouldn't be strong as the AT AT (otherwise the armor would be too heavy for an AT ST to carry).

This would be a more logical choice and I agree that their armor would be no where as strong as an AT-AT's.

I do not know if Ady has plans for an AT-ST (or a couple) to get fallen/destroyed, but I really think this is a great idea. THESE should be what the Rebel ground troops and some turrets will focus most of their firepower on... shoot their legs from under them, but not making it look easy (because of course they still have decent armor).

Wishlist Of Ideas/Suggestions For Improving ROTJ

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The more you start rationalizing the Hoth battle, the more it doesn't make sense. 

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Confused by the "pointless ground troops" conversation. I missed parts of it though, but from what I see, the ground troops were outside defending what may turn up. Those ATATs are transporters for ground troops so made sense to me to wait to tackle them when unloaded. Which of course they do when the snow troopers entered Echo base.   Shame we didn't see them unloading though with a bit of extended man on man shootouts.

And I'm not sure that the Rebels knew of the extent of ATAT shieldd capabilities till they got close enough. Possibly why they end up fleeing Hoth. ?

"Away put your weapon, I mean you no harm!"

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You're trying to add logic to a film where they fly a ship inside an asteroid and just so happen to also be flying into the belly of a huge snake/worm thing that just so happened to be living in this asteroid and has been surviving by eating...???

Not knocking the film or anything, just think you are overthinking things a bit! Just enjoy the movie, did any of this bother you when you first saw the film?

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We need something to talk about while we wait ;)

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Possessed said:

Not knocking the film or anything, just think you are overthinking things a bit! Just enjoy the movie, did any of this bother you when you first saw the film?

 Yes, and clearly this is a film we've watched more than just the one time......otherwise a project like this probably wouldn't exist.......and those little niggling details will stand out all the more upon each repeated viewing.

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Possessed said:

You're trying to add logic to a film where they fly a ship inside an asteroid and just so happen to also be flying into the belly of a huge snake/worm thing that just so happened to be living in this asteroid and has been surviving by eating...???

Not knocking the film or anything, just think you are overthinking things a bit! Just enjoy the movie, did any of this bother you when you first saw the film?

Not knocking your post or anything but there are lots of possibilities.

For example not all life-forms on this planet digest. So maybe it lives off radiation and the the mouth is for burrowing into rock. Maybe it's not even an asteroid in the traditional sense but mineral accretions that have formed over the animal's body.

Just because it's space fantasy doesn't mean it's all bobbins.

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Adywan posted on Facebook:

Things may have been pretty quiet from us recently, but i can assure you that this isn't the case behind the scenes. Everything is at full throttle...

... and a lot more about speeder flaps, things left to do, etc.

Link to Facebook post

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adywan said:

The set up process involves matching the lighting, setting up the green screen and then you have to set up the camera and model so that exactly matches the angle of the original full scale speeder set. That isn’t as easy as you would think.

 I would think that that's really difficult! But I'd like more information as to just how one figures this out, particularly when it comes to matching motion.

ROTJ Storyboard Reconstruction Project

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I continue to marvel at the sheer amount of work you're putting into your ongoing 'revisited' versions.  These additional 'speeder flaps' are really going to transform some of the cockpit shots for the better.

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I can't wait for this to come out

These are your final steps

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fgqb#19nyj said:

The more you start rationalizing the Hoth battle, the more it doesn't make sense. 

 The more you start rationalizing the entirety of The Empire Strikes Back, the more it doesn't make sense.  In fact, the story and plot make less sense than any of the movies, including the prequels....

What's great about Empire though, is it's still freakin' awesome.... and in a nutshell, that is the difference between the OT and the PT.

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Jacen said:

fgqb#19nyj said:

The more you start rationalizing the Hoth battle, the more it doesn't make sense. 

 The more you start rationalizing the entirety of The Empire Strikes Back, the more it doesn't make sense.  In fact, the story and plot make less sense than any of the movies, including the prequels....

What's great about Empire though, is it's still freakin' awesome.... and in a nutshell, that is the difference between the OT and the PT.

I don't know, I always thought Empire had the simplest story, but it was told well in comparison to the others. ANH gives us an introduction to this new universe, so there's more exposition and explanation. By Empire we're on familiar ground. The villain was mostly just carrying out orders before (recovering stolen plans). Now he's carrying out a personal vendetta at any cost. He's hell-bent on capturing one of the heroes, and has total disregard for anyone who gets in the way, including his own men. This culminates into one of the most famous reveals in the history of cinema. There are new settings and characters introduced, but the general theme is pretty straightforward. I think that's why it's freakin' awesome... as an audience we understand (for the most part) who's doing what and why, though I agree there are some details that don't always make sense.

Compare that to the prequels. I don't have a clue what the hell is going on, and I've stopped trying to figure it out. I don't care about any of the characters because I have no idea why anyone is doing anything. The only one we truly get to understand is Palpatine, culminating in one of the most boring and predictable reveals in the history of cinema. Other than than, we know Obi-Wan=good, Anakin=unconvincingly trying to be good, ends up bad. Yoda=indifferent with a policy of avoidance and inaction. Lando may have been a scoundrel, but at least we got to see that he cares about something.

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There is nothing in the OT as nonsensical as the Jabba's palace rescue in ROTJ and that's the best bit of that film.

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Bingowings said:

There is nothing in the OT as nonsensical as the Jabba's palace rescue in ROTJ and that's the best bit of that film.

Even I agree with this and ROTJ is my favorite of the three. >.<

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Considering all the work being put into the wing flaps I'm sure they will look awesome in motion. Was that an idea of Ady's to change or something that one of us suggested along the way?

"Bingowings said:There is nothing in the OT as nonsensical as the Jabba's palace rescue in ROTJ and that's the best bit of that film."

"Even I agree with this and ROTJ is my favorite of the three. >.<"

^^ Same here. I recall it was mentioned that ROTJR will be altered more than ANHR & ESBR. So I'm VERY curious about Ady's plans for the Jabba sequence and cannot wait for the eventual thread where we can all discuss it and offer ideas.

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DF Shadow said:

Considering all the work being put into the wing flaps I'm sure they will look awesome in motion. Was that an idea of Ady's to change or something that one of us suggested along the way?

 I believe it was something he wanted to do from the beginning, but was unsure if he'd be able to achieve it at that early time.

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timdiggerm said:

I spent several minutes trying to think of an explanation for the Jabba plan.

It's worse than the convoluted Dark Knight & Skyfall situations

 Yeah, it's pretty bad.....I'm hoping Ady's wanting to clear it up somewhat, and I have an outline prepared as to how it could be achieved in very few steps.

EDIT: 005...I always liked that vid.....it lays out the problem quite effectively.