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Post #689864

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RicOlie_2
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The thread where we make enemies out of friends, aka the abortion debate thread
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12-Feb-2014, 11:46 PM

generalfrevious said:

RicOlie_2 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV's Frink said:

generalfrevious said:

No matter, oral contraception still kills embryos; the pill is worse than meth, therefore anyone who takes it might as well be committing an abortion anyways. Anyone who disagrees with this is a sociopath that has been brainwashed by the anti-christian, pro-abortion, second(or third)-wave feminist agenda.

 Please seek psychiatric help.  Seriously, you need it, no insult intended.

 That's not me. That's the Roman Catholic church speaking; I cannot disagree with them on any issue, or I will be damned.

If that is honestly your view, then you might need to do some research. You will not go to hell just for disagreeing on something. Not everything the Church teaches is infallible, so feel free to disagree on things that don't have to do with morals and suchlike.

This isn't the debate on wether the earth or the sun is in the center of the solar system or not; this is on issues of sex, the first sin man committed against God.

Hold on...can you point me to the bit in the Bible/other text where it says that sex was the first sin? Also, can you find something with a Nihil Obstat on it that says sex is wrong?

They are brainwashing our women in taking a horrendous drug that inevitably lead to the trauma of murdering your own child. There is no grey area, reproductive rights are inherently misogynistic.

As far as I am aware, the pill prevents a pregnancy as do other contraceptives. They're still wrong, but they aren't as bad as abortion. There are indeed grey areas, and even the Church teaches this. For instance, if a pregnant mother's life is in danger, she can abort her pregnancy.

It's shocking that all Catholics who use contraception or disagree with the Humanae Vitae are so contemptuous of God's natural law and the call to purity and chastity, and turn a blind eye to one of the greatest genocides in recorded history. You have no idea how horrible the social impact of the contraceptive oral pill really is to society: families were more stable and loving, women had more dignity than they have now, divorce rates were almost nonexistent, sexually transmitted infections were low, less children were born out of wedlock, and people were less perverted than they are today. The governments of Western Nations are cracking down on the Roman Catholic church by forcing them to murder innocent human beings via contraception and abortions.

On one hand you seem to wholeheartedly agree with the Church's teachings; on the other, you seem to feel trapped by it and want to do away with many of them. I don't get it.

That's the devil talking. But we must always bear our cross, no matter how angry it makes us feel on the inside.

That's the Church's teaching, but if you think Catholicism is the worst religion in the world, then you must think there is something seriously wrong with it and therefore you must not believe it is true. If you're saying it's the devil that's making you type that stuff, then are you implying you're possessed? (Not the OT.com member. ;))

You are giving contradictory thoughts and it is kind of confusing. You sound confused yourself, no offense.

Catholics must always listen to the church elders and obey every law the church lays down; they are Christians first and citizens second. We may sound booted to you, but we will be comforted when we see the Popes in heaven and the Planned Parenthood thugs burning in hell for all eternity. 

 Not all Popes will go to heaven and not all Planned Parenthood supporters will burn in hell. Also, I can't imagine being comforted at the thought of someone going to hell.

 The wicked will be punished: that is a universal statement professed by all religions, and I'm sorry you cannot understand that. 

 The wicked may be punished, but how wicked do they have to be? We don't really know. Also, Catholics believe in Purgatory in which everyone who didn't become a saint on earth but wasn't bad enough to go to hell goes through a period of suffering in order to become saints. Only saints get into heaven, but Purgatory is there so that people can become saints. Also, I can't understand being comforted by the thought of someone being in hell. I just can't imagine how anyone could be happy about someone's suffering.