I do want to add to this thread an apology to TV's Frink. It's not that I think the main point I was making was incorrect, but rather my phrasing. Sympathy was the wrong word to use. I should say that I feel his personal story, while valuable in many cases, can be overused or incorrectly used. I don't like my arguments deflated with an incorrect application such an anecdote. But there are many cases where such anecdotes are valuable and conducive to discussion. I am sorry for the difficult situation he faced with such long-lasting effects. I am sorry for being/sounding insensitive about it. It clearly left a deep scar. I do ask, however, that when you use it, you don't use it to make me sound like a jerk, especially when I'm giving a general rule, and you know that I believe in exceptions. Hopefully we can remain friends in spite of our vastly different POVs on this topic, and particularly for when I stumble over my words.

As for Bingowings, I'm a little less inclined to apologize. I really feel you have mischaracterized me, and to be so harsh in your judgment of me when you should be aware of my personal views and my efforts to be congenial even in disagreement is awfully frustrating. I think it was obvious that I did not intend to be mean, and I have said before that I don't judge him for his situation. I feel that many of your points are often made with less than respect. Forgive me for using the wrong word now and then.