Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] BD-25 (Released) — Page 4

Well, after so many tests, and the opinions of all, I reached the conclusion that HaloClean2 + MagicUp is the best compromise (IMHO, of course) *in this very moment*... maybe in a month, maybe in a year, I will find a better solution - even if I'm pretty sure it will be hard, as I think it's quite impossible to do better than this, with laserdisc as video source.

The lossless video is ready; I just have to work with the soundtracks... this evening I'm really tired, so for the first time in some months, I will not touch avisynth and/or virtualdub... "Sacrilege!!!" someone will yell (-^,) I know, I know... but I'm human, after all (am I? or feline?!? dunno...) - I'll be back to work ASAP.

I'm back to work with BATB; sync'ing the BD and the final video, I noted that sometimes the BD has more image than laserdisc on the sides, while other times the BD has the image cropped top and bottom... see for example the next two frames, that are one after the other:

according to IMDB:

Aspect Ratio

1.66 : 1 (negative ratio)
1.50 : 1 (IMAX version)
1.85 : 1 (intended ratio)

so, it's odd that the BD uses both 1.85:1 and cropped 1.66:1, while the laserdisc uses only the 1.66:1 not cropped... maybe an expert could write he something more about this.

Disney is notoriusly an eco-friendly company; infact, they decided to plant a new tree for their BATB Blu-ray release…

Zuh?  What possible...  I mean, huh?

Maybe Leonard Maltin can start releasing tins of untouched Disney films as a series for collectors.

Guess they felt the composition of the scene was a little empty.  Weird stuff.

This is only a particular I noted during the sync... I cannot think about what other things they changed in this, and in all other films... it's creeping... well, it's true that we can live with an added tree, but the fact is that we want the movie AS IT WAS! Isn't true? It's a matter of principle!

For BATB, they changed colors, mixed cropping, repainted things, remixed soundtracks... there will be an end to all of this? I think our child DESERVE the right to watch ALL the Disney films as they were originally - and we too!

...clearly Disney don't want that any thing into its films reminds another studio's logo, so they decided to remove something here...

...because maybe someone could recall the following...

(^^,)

Here I am! Today will be a BATB day, so I will start it proposing my little color correction, to avoid that pink blanket present on the laserdisc.

top,before; bottom,after:

Opinions are welcome!

top,before; bottom,second attempt (click for JPG lossy bigger version - sorry, filesize too big for PNG hosting...):

top,before; bottom,second attempt (click for PNG lossless bigger version):

I darkened a bit the image, but details should be there now.

About the fact that this pink blanket should be there: really I don't know; some expert is needed to answer this question.

I must add that it may be due to the actual film degradation, and the telecine process brought it to video...

I'm near the completion, but I need someone who can help me with subtitles...

I have all the needed idx/sub files, but don't know how to mux in the final .m2ts file; TSMuxer don't accept it, EasyBD lite neither...

I thought also to OCR them, then let the software re-render them; but this conversion will probably lead to some errors...

Suggestions?

Wow!  I always thought that there was still something a little off about the Laserdisc; glad to see you're working to fix that. 

You can call me _,,,^..^,,,_ as well - BTW, how can I pronounce it?!? (^^,)

Well, this is an interesting thing... but I'm afraid I have not that french LD!

If some other french user would like to capture it, I will add that track to the final project, but I need to know ASAP as probably I should re-encode the video to accomodate all the files into a BD-25!

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I watched by myself the movie two days ago... my daughter was not interested, despite the fact I've started this project also thinking about her... well, I must check the video, so I continued to watch it... and, I discovered I haven't seen it before! I watched so many movies, TV series and cartoons during my whole life, and I was sure I had seen it, but with my own surprise, this was the first time!

OK, video is quite good, it doesn't seem from a laserdisc, and resolution is satisfactory, even if not razor-sharp as late animation; color grading is right; I have noted three or four frames with very minor drop outs found in the original source, but they are so little that probably only one will be noted during a normal (read: watched only for pleasure, and not to spot out every single possible error) view, and is not so annoying; I could fix it, it's true, but to me is like a flaw that adds that "vintage" look that I love!The only thing that I noted is colors are sometimes muted - in comparison to BD - but I think they are well balanced and not overly exagerated...

At the end, a good result for a LD based project.

And, by the way, I LOVED the story!

_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

You can call me _,,,^..^,,,_ as well - BTW, how can I pronounce it?!? (^^,)

Kilroy.

CATroy, maybe... (^^,) but I prefer to leave it shrouded in mystery...

_,,,^..^,,,_, you need BDSup2Sub, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/BDSup2Sub (try v5.1.2 first ++ is just a port).

You can import the sub/idx and output bd sup (PGS) format.  It'll even let you resize if you need to.

Thanks, I'll give it a try!