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Escape From New York [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED* — Page 4

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Just incase anyone is interested in making a smaller version of just the movie with the English soundtracks and commentaries... I used BDRebuilder to make a "movie only" AVCHD DVD 9 (dual layer Verbatim) and I burned it last night.  It turned out great for a smaller scale version of the project.  I know it's not the same, but if you just want to watch the movie in English with a couple of soundtracks and both commentaries it works fine with full playback control.  No issues whatsoever and it actually looks great on a large display.  I'm sure you guys will get the BD-25 in order but for anyone who doesn't have a BD burner it's another viable option.

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Hi Andrea, so sorry to hear your latest project is causing you such woes!

Some quick observations from here:

Positives: My Panasonic DMP-BDT220 loaded up the disc just fine, immediately recognising it as a BD disc. The loading screens and main menus appeared without a fault. When I play the movie, it plays and navigates smoothly so I have no problem enjoying the excellent restoration.

Negatives: The audio menu is unresponsive, and after I click down a few options it gives up altogether and flips back to the main menu. As a result I couldn't access the commentary this way. Similarly, the chapter menu is unresponsive and when I finally accessed the second screen it locked up altogether, necessitating a restart of the machine (a first for this player!)

It's a pity that MultiACVHD's authoring and menu structure seem to be less compliant than they should be - it's a nice enough tool, and I frequently use its playlist merging feature to author multi-part discs (without menus). Contacting the author might help to iron out these issues.

On a side note, I admit I was a little surprised to see the modern MGM logo at the start - not only is is anachronistic, but they weren't even the theatrical distributor (that being AVCO Embassy according to IMDB). If you should happen to go to a V2, might I politely suggest its removal or substitution?

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Jonno, I added the MGM logo as I didn't want to touch the english soundtrack from BD and german soundtrack from LD; also, if someone with other BD soundtracks that would like to put them in sync, will have no problems.

I thought to add black frames to put HDTV in sync with BD, but I tested it and it was sad so hear the lion roars without seeing him...

Latest motivation: think about my avatars, and you'll understand... (^^,)

But, if it's a problem, the day I will solve the BD "affair", I can always change that!

About BD compatibility: I have no idea why it doesn't work properly, as in my two PS3 it works flawlessy - maybe it is more forgiving than a standalone BD player... I also opened a thread to seek help to find out how to solve this!

EDIT: forgot to mention: also tested with success with another PS3 of a friend of mine.

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I realize it is working for you, but for us, it's not. I tested your THE THING out on more BD players than I can count and they all couldn't handle anything other than playback. Trying to chapter forward, scan, pause, switch audio channels resulted in freezing or crashes. 

The same thing is happening with Escape From New York. And for the record I have a PS3. 

Might I suggest a simplified version, minus some of the audio tracks, movie only and tested on at least half a dozen different BD players. Also, using discs burned via different methods... Some on a PC, some on a Mac, etc. Perfect your final product and then move onto more restorations.

There is no question a great deal of hard work went into these, but something is amiss and considering the length of time it takes to download these, many will just pass for fear of the same result. 

I am going to stick Escape into BDRebuilder for a movie only BD25 minus the foreign audio tracks and hope for success. 

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Matt_Stevens said:

Perfect your final product and then move onto more restorations.

This a 100 times over, you should really do this, I mean you are all over the place with projects and seeing who is doing what so you can do it, posting screens for other possibilities, I mean really you should slow down and read that line from Matt a few times, this project was the first one I downloaded and it is messed up, for me to fix this it would have to be re encoded and re authored all from scratch, and I am not going to do all that.

So please take Matts advice.

*edit, and for the record I am not saying we do not make mistakes, we do, but so far I catch them before we release, we all make mistakes, but when you advertise a fully authored functional BD and it is not, and then do it again, this makes people very gun shy on downloading anything you share.

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I'm sorry about that, and I'm aware people will be fearful to download further releases because that...

But, before EFNY, I had only one complaint about a not working disc - and, IIRC, was due to download problems... for EFNY, I burned a BD-R and a BD-RE, tested both with two different PS3 models without problems... I was pretty sure it will work with most standalone BD players, but this is not the case... HOW could I know that in advance?

I asked for help in the technical forum; hope someone will help me, because I don't figure out how to solve this myself... before using MultiAVCHD, I read many forums and they said most standalone players were compatible, but this seems not to be the case here...

So, maybe is not MultiAVCHD; maybe it's the x264 encoding, maybe the 4.1 profile, maybe the TSmuxer not compliant - used by multiavchd... DON'T KNOW!!!
Another chance to help me, is to test Halloween, as it was made using EasyBD lite; if it will work, at least I know that software works... I'm posting a request in the proper threads.Please, let's continue the discussion about the disc compatibility issue in the thread I opened, thanks!

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Using BD Rebuilder I have a viable Blu-Ray burn that plays on my PS3. It's movie only (no menus or extras), but it does work. 

In my opinion there is something wonky about the version that ie being downloaded, but it all has to do in the BD mastering. Fixing that and it's a viable fan restoration. Audio mixes are all in sync, though I think the Debra Hill commentary is way too loud. PCM vs. DTS is a toss-up as far as which I prefer. They are both terrific. 

This all being said, the official Blu-Ray, while entirely too dark, is naturally superior as far as lack of compression artifacts and grain structure. I think on any screen smaller than 60 inches the fan version preferable. On a screen my size the BD is preferable because the grain is not clumpy or muddy from compression. 

It's amazing how despite the tech used in the film being dated how well the story holds up. it's just an awesome piece of filmmaking.

By the way... Is the Carpenter/Russel commentary ripped from the DVD or was it recorded from the laserdisc? They are the same commentary, but the DVD had certain "controversial" statements removed.

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I'm surprised to hear about the playback issues people are having. Personally, I don't have a blu-ray burner, so I don't burn these onto discs. I just copy the entire folder over to my external media player and play it from there - my media player even supports blu-ray disc menus, as long as they aren't Java menus.

This played perfectly fine for me in my media player. The menus all functioned perfectly and the film played through without issue. It may be that my media player is more tolerant of compatibility problems than some blu-ray players are. I know my media player has very wide media support, so that may be why it played perfectly.

I thought the menu looked very professional, and this is by far the best I've ever seen this look. The official blu-ray is far, far too dark for me to enjoy.


For anyone who just wants to rip the movie itself to mkv with no menus, and not lose any quality, I highly recommend MakeMKV. It's free while it's in beta, but don't let the word beta scare you - it's wonderful software that works flawlessly and easily, and it's been in beta for a long time now - just load up the blu-ray folder and select the titles you want to rip - you can keep whatever audio tracks and subtitle tracks you like, and it rips to lossless .mkv with no quality loss of audio or video.

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Oldfan, Matt, thanks for the feedbacks!

Both commentaries are taken from DVD, untouched; I was sure that the first one was the same of the laserdisc, but if it's true that something was cut for the DVD version, then I could think about to capture the laserdisc one next time...

For BD playback issues, I opened a dedicated thread, to gather all comments and try to find out a solution; please post your BD feedback there, thanks!

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I have a laserdisc audio rip of the LD commentary if you want it.

Had no idea either something was cut on the DVD from that original LD commentary.

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It is MORE than welcome... as it seems I should release a V. 1.1 when I'll find the way to solve the BD compatibility issues!

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I was a bit shy from burning this after reading some comments, but everything seems to work great : I burned the BD on Sony BR, and watched it on my standalone player (Pioneer BDP-LX55), from A to Z and without any glitch whatsoever. Audio switching, chapters, FF, RW, everything's good - not to mention you delivered again a fantastic work, that finaly does justice to yet another Carpenter classic. Sorry to read some are encountering problems playing their BR but I guess it depends on many factors, not inherent to the release itself. I personaly have nothing but praises for this release.

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Doc, thanks for the info, and the praises! (-^,)

Now, someone has compatibility issues, others not... the mystery thickens!

Maybe it is something connected to the fact that I was forced to reinstall the OS... I should try to re-encode the main video, using the new one to replace the one I used for the BD-25 project, burn a BD and test it in more than few standalone BD players...

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Has any progress been made on the authoring issue with this download ?

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In few days I'll re-encode and re-author it, and I hope to test in several standalone players - that will be not my PS3!

I'll post results here.

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Andrea, I just wanted to add that everyone I've shown this to has been very impressed to say the least.  It really turned out great and I hope you revisit more Carpenter films in the future.  Thanks again!

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Andrea, thanks for this! I'll be using your BD25 for another custom compilation, no idea how many discs. Also agreeing with Flexicon9!

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Happy someone recognized this is a good project, even if it has its compatibility problems... in a near future, I hope to solve those problems, and I'll also improve those three short shots with residual logos!

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Happy someone recognized this is a good project, even if it has its compatibility problems... in a near future, I hope to solve those problems, and I'll also improve those three short shots with residual logos!

 Andrea, your projects are absolutely perfect and worthy of multi-disc Blu-ray compilations of films. I'll be buying multi-disc Blu-ray cases just because of your projects, especially for THE THING and Escape from New York. Same goes for any [spoRv] BD25 projects you're doing currently and in the future. Well, as long as I'm interested in the film.

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Andrea, this is the best presentation of Escape From New York out there.  The laserdisc audio is excellent.  Bravo!

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Thanks! But I'm still unsatisfied because of its BD problematic compatibility... I'll repair the situation one day - hope soon...

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I hope so. I have been dying to see it and was very sad when it didn't work :(

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jimjimmyjones85 said:

I hope so. I have been dying to see it and was very sad when it didn't work :(

 Have you used BDRebuilder? Has helped me tons of times in the past.

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jimjimmyjones85 said:

I hope so. I have been dying to see it and was very sad when it didn't work :(

 Have you used BDRebuilder? Has helped me tons of times in the past.

 Thanks. Giving it a shot now.