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Post #687193

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RicOlie_2
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Ask the godless heathen - AKA Ask An Atheist
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Date created
1-Feb-2014, 7:10 PM

Leonardo said:

For "atheist explanation", you mean "unbiased by religion and only based on fact", right? I'm just saying because the way you asked sounded akin to asking the opinion of a sect or anything that's organized. Atheists are individuals.

I didn't mean to indicate that atheists are a group. What I meant was "how can this be explained if there is no God."

My own personal hypothesis is that the story he's telling us (remember, this is the account of one man, no other people in that video told us they saw the angels there, this is all based on his testimony) is how his brain tried to cope with what was happening. It was obviously a traumatic experience, psychologically and most importantly physically. The man was being crushed beneath a truck, and was losing conscience due to the intense pain.

I think that is quite likely.

Let's bear in mind that he's not telling us this story 5 minutes, 10 minutes, an hour after the fact. Months have passed. He's had time to "reconstruct" the event in his mind, and to "interpret" things the way a man of faith would.

I agree. I believe the important thing is that it strengthened his faith, though, regardless of whether or not it was actually a miracle, but the miraculous nature of the event is questionable.

In the few minutes spent trying to write this answer I actually found this rather interesting analysis, I would insist that you read it. If the sardonic remarks about God in it offend you, you can ignore them, I feel the thing in itself is worthy of attention and thought.

http://www.freethunk.net/freethunk-news-bites/bruce-van-natta-grows-intestines-say-what-2949

A lot of good points in that article, but the author obviously misunderstands who the Christian God is. I think there are also some good points on the Christian side in the comments.

Final thoughts: medical science saved Mr Van Natta. Just because he claims it's a miracle, and God helped him, doesn't mean it is. I feel what he claims is very disrespectful to all the doctors and surgeons responsible for him being alive today. Not a word of gratitude is spent towards them in the video and I feel that's a real shame.

 Perhaps he may be disrespectful from an atheist standpoint, but from a Christian point of view, this is not the case. That being said, the doctors did play a major part. Without them, the man would have died, and I think he should have credited them (maybe he did in his book).