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Are you sure that's not the thing at the top of the moisture vaporator?

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Where were you in '77?

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SilverWook said:

Are you sure that's not the thing at the top of the moisture vaporator?

I'm not so sure if it is a boom mike or not but it's definitely an object that is part of the film crew. It's moving along with the shot for a few frames.

Here you can see a little more of it:

from the Special Collection LD which is often much too open in it's framing.

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I remember that from my '89 laserdisc, ironically the one that gets too tight at the top later in the movie. 

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Must be some other piece of equipment then. A boom mike would ideally be over Mark's head, pointed downwards, and not way off to the left of the shot.

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It looks like a flag. Just a square piece of fabric that's used to block off light. 

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Could be part of the lens hood then.

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To me it's most definitely the flag that the man is holding in his hand on the right. He was probabaly instructed to hold the flag at a certain position until the camera panned up and over and he was to move accordingly. Only he was just a bit too slow at the beginning. Why do this? Look at the shadows... The sun is positioned in front of the camera. That's a recipe for some nasty lens flair (not always the pretty kind). When you're doing a semi-complicated camera move and trying to avoid artifacts going onto your image you need someone to block it out. It's not unheard of to have someone simply hold their hand over a lens to block out a light. Do what you need to do to get the shot. 

A lens hood in a shot doesn't look like that. Il looks like a blurry, black vignette. 

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SilverWook said:

Must be some other piece of equipment then. A boom mike would ideally be over Mark's head, pointed downwards, and not way off to the left of the shot.

 Most likely a handheld shade required to get the shot. They are used all the time on location.
 I'll take a look at the film I have here and see what it looks like in motion, and if it is in shot on the 'aussie' print.

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Well, whatever it is, it seems to me after some further calculations that it most likely was outside the theatrical ratio standard almost exactly. That's probably why they kept this take in the film. They knew that it would not be seen in the theater. While 2.39:1 is a wider ratio than 2.35:1, the change of the projector aperture in the 70's was a reduction in height not an increase in width.

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After seeing that on-set photo, I have decided I want to be a boom operator so I can go to work in my underwear.

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Well, it was the '70's. I think they have a stricter dress code now. ;)

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Shorts were tighter and shorter in the 70s. That's what I learned from "The Making of Star Wars".

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I learned that from my brief time spent in the 1980s. I think it might be a big reason why I don't wear shorts anymore, even though they are much larger today.

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As a reference, we've synced up the raw LPP scan agains the GOUT. The top is the LPP (with Reel number), and the bottom is the GOUT.

You can see the areas that are cropped in the GOUT. Also notice that in scenes with a lot of red/pink flashes, that ours are not as blown out.

Finally, there are some artifacts in ours that will be left in (the blue spot in the Darth Vader entrance) to preserve those. We are still deciding which ones will be preserved, and which ones will be cleaned.

We'll be posting several shots from all the reels.

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1) These are not color corrected.

2) The flyover is taken from different LPPs, and also regular Kodak prints. So some shots have more stars in them.

3) The LPP was not cropped.

4) This is the scan with no cleanup done on it.

Here are various frames from Reel 1:

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Time to play Unpopular Opinions with Bkev, everyone!

These look significantly worse than the GOUT as-is.  That purple tint puts the even the blu-rays to shame.  Is this from your re-scan, or the first pass?  I know I've seen better-looking shots of the Tantive from one of your prints...

edit: question-- how many prints are you working with right now?

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bkev said:

Time to play Unpopular Opinions with Bkev, everyone!

These look significantly worse than the GOUT as-is.  That purple tint puts the even the blu-rays to shame.  Is this from your re-scan, or the first pass?  I know I've seen better-looking shots of the Tantive from one of your prints...

edit: question-- how many prints are you working with right now?

There are at least 3 Prints. 2 Kodak ones, and 1 LPP. We also have some partial reels, and replacement parts for the flyover, and the Han shoots Greedo scene.

This is the first pass, not the rescans. Also, we said it wasn't color corrected.

Hard to judge them, when you haven't seen the video, unless you looked at the 1080p cleaned up versions, which are significantly better.

There's quite a few posted earlier, such as:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/team-negative1-star-wars-1977-35mm-theatrical-version-release-details-and-updates/post/674021/#TopicPost674021

Not sure why you would compare the Raw scan to the GOUT, this is for a reference to check frames and cropping. Not for quality.

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I'd prefer fewer shots, but in higher res and no compression. These do a nice job showing cropped areas, but nothing more.

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The purpose of the shots was to show cropping. Also to show that some artifacts will still be left in the final version.

There will be more previews forthcoming.

They won't be in any higher resolutions, because thats the native resolution of the comparison. It doesn't need to be higher than that because of the DVD resolution of the GOUT isn't that big to work with.

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Feallan said:

Now we're talking! :) Please post more like that in the future, looks amazing.

 Thanks, we'll try to.

And thanks to everyone on OT, for all the views.

We broke the 100k mark recently, so best wishes from the team.

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