American Hominid said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
I don't want any Darths. Vader not being the only Darth in the prequels was bad enough.
Look... in OT it is clearly stated that Anakin was given a Darth name after he was seduced to the dark side. It is also established that he became a Sith. This is a good indication that the name Darth has something to do with Sith.
And he was seduced by who? Who he calls "master"?
In OT there is enough evidence suggesting Darth was a Sith thing and Palpatine was also a Sith.
The only other character who has a double/fake name in the OT that I can think of is Ben Kenobi, and Ben doesn't seem to be a title for him. So 'Darth' needn't, from the OT alone, be a title (though it works well as one).
Vader was seduced to the dark side, but he could have identified as the Dark Lord of the Sith on his own (how the name came about, and what exactly a Sith is, are never mentioned in the OT films). Maybe there was something about that tradition that appealed to him, whereas the Emperor was more about just using the dark side for himself, no affiliations except himself and his own creations (the Empire).
I'm not saying that's actually how it was going to be, just that that seems like a believable non-Palpatine-Sith explanation to me. Especially given how the term 'Sith' doesn't seem to be even mentioned in the ROTJ story conferences or planning. There isn't any inkling, as far as I can tell, in the OT of a longstanding historical struggle between not just the users of the sides of the Force but two specific traditions that embody each side, of which Palpatine and Darth Vader are the sole current members of one. In The Making of ROTJ, Palpatine is described as kind of a dark side counterpart to Yoda. And Yoda is described as more of a teacher than a Jedi. A high spiritual priest who knows the Force.
The thing is that it is not clearly stated or explained. What I was trying to say is that there is enough evidence that one can reasonably think Palpatine was a Sith. But then again there not clearly stated so one can reasonably think he wasn't.
But it irritates me when darklordoftech is trying to say that in OT Palpatine was not a Sith and presents that as some kind of fact. Same goes for "Darth".