Great. More contrived facts.
"You really don't. Which is fine, because you're learning as you go, and that's typically the best way to learn--but most of your "rebuttal points" are best guesses and at worst rationalizations for your faulty memories."
You know, it's really funny when some asshole comes around, pretending to know what they are talking about, and the one fact they DO bother to produce turns out to be wrong. Everything else was simply your baseless assumption with nothing to back it up.
"It's hard to hear you speak authoritatively on any subject about image quality when you can't even capture and burn your DVD correctly the first four times you try. FOR INSTANCE:"
Oh, for Christ sake, if you'd bother reading, you'd see I didn't even have the right calibration software. I only recently received Video Essentials a few days ago. It's funny the things one can learn with a little research. Not to mention the fact I've always been brutally honest about my transfers and their limitations. My "superiority" over Lucas is due to the fact that I'm willing to put in the effort for an O-OT release that he is not. In that respect, any transfer I make will be better than any that he refuses to make.
In addition to that, what's wrong with continually making improvements and refinements in my process? I suppose you nailed it your first time, if ever?
"PAL vs NTSC isn't going to introduce the kind of color differences you're arguing about if the discs are being played on the proper monitors."
I never said ONCE that it would produce color differences, simply that this "everything from the master is the same" crap was flat-out wrong. Not only are they different framerates, but PAL is progressive. Didya forget that one?
"the SOUND SWAP on the dvd's has nothing to do with the color differences you think you're seeing."
Again, I never said it did. It simply poked a huge whole in your pretense that Lucas wouldn't allow any kind of mistakes on these DVD's.
"You're trying to bring up everything BUT the fact that comparing a restored, remastered, retransferred DVD to an old, out of date, washed out Laserdisc transfer--and then saying the LASERDISC is closer to true is pretty ridiculous."
No, what's ridiculous is you contriving this argument and attributing it to me. Show me where I said this, please...oh, I forgot, such research isn't your thing.
"Here--here's a bunch of comparisons. Weird. Blue push in the DVD's? I dunno about you, but I think the blue push is occurring behind your head somewhere, especially compared to the SE's directly above it, and the Originals above THAT. You are, as a matter of fact, the FIRST person online I've read anywhere to try and say the DVD's are leaning towards the blue end of the spectrum."
I'm going to type this really slow for you:
1) The person above my post noted the blue color first, and I responded, so I was the SECOND person you saw mention this.
2) Every R1 DVD screencap I've seen has had blue push compared to the LDs.
3) The site you refer to has screencaps from the French DVD trailers - a decidely NON-R1 DVD, IIRC.
Apples to oranges. When you or someone else gets off their ass and puts an actual R1 DVD screencap next to an LD screencap, then they can be seriously compared. Until then, your evidence is worthless.
"it's probably not enough that I just tell you to look at the screencaps, because then I'd have to trust you to KNOW what you're looking for, and I'm not sold that you KNOW what you're talking about. The fact you still use bullshit like "PPOR" helps me to continue thinking that."
The screencaps are in these threads. Go back and rese.......nevermind.
"Considering you so easily throw away the idea that previous transfers WERE overbright and soft and washed out. This is fact, man."
I threw away nothing. Neither the LDs or DVD's are exactly the same as the original prints. They underwent extreme reconditioning, in case you forgot. Hell, the SW.COM quote talks about the new DVD prints looking like the 30-year-old dailies. I guess you are putting all your faith into this guy's ability to remember such colors 30 years later? LOL!
"Keep in mind this was long before DVD was thought of. The above happened with EVERY MOVIE. they overcranked the brightness and contrast. It's just a matter of fact that earlier transfers for the VHS and LD era WERE OVERBRIGHT."
So, now you are implying that this was never fixed in the Def. Col. or Faces set?
"Gee. You'd think if the guy responsible for film restoration of some DEFINITE CLASSICS had noticed a blue push, had thought the picture was oversaturated--he'd have mentioned it, right?"
Oh, and what a detailed description that is, too. :roll eyes;
"What I said was that the SAME transfer got pressed to the SAME discs in the same plants as EVERY OTHER REGION got pressed at. PAL regions got that IDENTICAL transfer encoded in PAL. It's the SAME TRANSFER. You're not going to notice a color difference between R1 and R4, because it's the EXACT SAME NTSC transfer, simply with different region coding."
Then why not post some screencaps from both, and actually prove me wrong, rather than depending on third-party out-of-context quotes which can used to prove almost any point imaginable.
Surely, you're up to that, RIGHT?!?
Oh, and as to Ratlsnake, he agreed with you in principle , but he did not prove your claims in any sense of the word. Go figure.
"Hell, you can't even spell non-sequitur right."
Wow, one misspelling and I lost you completely? Mind you, it was 2:00 in the morning, but I'm sorry to create so much confusion for you.