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Post #683009

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Darth Lars
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What Went Wrong/What Can Be Avoided Thread
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12-Jan-2014, 1:27 AM

Another thing that went wrong:  Several things that were said in the OT that referred to the past were contradicted in the PT or left out:

- "Damn fool idealistic crusade". I suppose that this refers to the Clone Wars, but what was the "idealistic" part? What was the "crusade" part? It was a war, but there wasn't much of a movement for anything - instead the Jedi were against anything that could lead to war.

- Leia remembering her mother.

- "Yoda, the Jedi Master that taught me"

Bingowings said:

Having Yoda in the PT was a mistake in my opinion and having him be a saber throwing acrobat was a disaster the series will be hard pushed to recover from.

No, I think that Yoda being in the PT was absolutely compulsory. Just has Luke is compulsory in the ST. There are too strong hints in the OT to what the character did/will do. I think that more fans would have got outraged if Yoda wasn't in the PT than they are of how Yoda was portrayed.

I agree about the saber fights. The fight in AOTC was a very cheap flirt with the fans and the fight against the Emperor in ROTS is a memory that I prefer to suppress.
The OT had Yoda set up as being primarilya great teacher and we don't see much of that. I think he would have been more interesting if we only got glimpses of his abilities in using the Force.

Dooku would have been so much more tragic/potent a character if he was the same character Liam Neeson played in TPM leaving Obi-wan to do all the ground work of finding Anakin.

Wow. I have never thought of that ... Very interesting. What if Qui-Gon was only badly hurt in TPM. The pain and suffering would make it easier for him to succumb the dark side, and also motivate him to seek out the Sith for revenge. He was already somewhat of a rogue who wouldn't have stayed on the "right" path just because doctrine said he should.   His wounds and his disobedience against the order would have kept him away from official Jedi duties, giving him time to pursue the Sith on his own .. and still have Obi-Wan be Anakin's teacher.
Even though Obi-Wan was Anakin's teacher, Qui-Gon would naturally have more access  to and influence over Anakin than Palpatine had.