Warbler said:
Bingowings said:
Warb doesn't even seem to know what Devil's advocacy is. I play it now and then,
I know what it is and thanks for finally admitting to it.
Bingowings said:
everyone does it's a legitimate tool of rhetoric but to just bleat that everything I say lacks legitimacy because I sometimes try to get readers to see beyond the tramlines
the readers here don't need you to get them to look "beyond the tramlines"
It amazes me the number of people here that think it is their job to educate me.
Bingowings said:
After all love the not sinner not the totally unfounded and yet somehow hinted sin right?
huh?
Bingowings said:
BTW I 'resurrected' the debate because I was away due to the Santanic Winter Fest 2013. Santa, Saturn and Satan all being the same figure as Wotan/Odin/Shani.
see this is what I can't stand. You just have to spew this asinine crap instead of just saying you were away for Christmas. And why do you spew it? to mock my and other Christians' religious beliefs.
It's not our job to educate you.
It's a discussion forum so when you say that I'm being acting like a donkey for 'insulting' your religious belief in Dec 25th being the Birthday celebration of the the savior being you call Jesus, it is a continuation of that discussion point to remember that the festival has little if anything to do with Christianity to the point that in the middle ages the Catholic Church tried to de-paganise it in much the same way that Jehovah's witnesses do today.
The statue of Saturn the bearded lord of time was bound in his temple in great woolen stockings and in December he was put on display and people would get drunk at office parties and children would be given presents and everyone would wear silly hats.
In the North children left their boots outside with food for Wotan's steed and hoped to receive presents in return.
Satan was the accuser of man and kept an angelic log of all their misdeeds as did Shani who is represented in the heavens by the Planet Saturn which viewed from the naked eye looks like it has a pair of horns.
Buddha was born on Dec 25th on a homeward journey and was visited by a holy man who read the stars that proclaimed he would be a great king or a savior.
It's not an insult to say this it's just the facts of the feast. Either through parallel evolution or outright stealing Christmas as we know has virtually nothing Christian about it.
It served the point I was making to point it out so it's hardly in the manner that meek animal ridden by the Celtic goddess Epona or the Hindu Goddess Kaalatri or the Mother of God Mary, for me to utilise that opportunity to do so.
If you go around calling that crap why should you expect less to be said about your beliefs?