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The Controversial Discussions Thread (Was "The Prejudice Discussion Thread" (Was "The Human Sexuality Discussion Thread" (Was "The Homosexuality Discussion Thread")))
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2-Jan-2014, 9:48 PM

I'm gonna go Warb for this one...

ferris209 said:


Additionally, I certainly do think there is a slippery slope. This idea is mocked and downplayed, but it is reality. If "gay marriage" is permitted, why restrict polygamy, why restrict marriage between a man and animal, why restrict marriage between the living and the dead, why restrict marrying an inanimate object, so on and so forth. These are debates that are currentlyhappening, and will continue should there be no single simple definition that is understood and agreed upon. Such as marriage is a legal, lawful, and spiritual union of one man and one woman.

Because two like-minded people marrying is the same thing as a person marrying a building or a pillow.

Too many believe that disagreeing with homosexuality is hateful in and of itself, this is completely and utterly wrong. It is possible, and common I believe, to be tolerant, yet disagreeable. I love all of my gay brothers and sisters, I pray they can find salvation, but I feel they regularly perform sinful acts. I feel as equally about them as I do my brother and sisters who drink to excess, commit adultery, have lust in their hearts, or have sex prior to marriage. I myself am a sinner on the level of homosexuals as I did have sex prior to marriage, I regularly drink to excess, and I have a strong lust in my heart for other women. So why would I hate someone who, I believe, sins as much as I?

Drinking to excess can harm others.  Adultery definitely hurts others.  Lust in your heart is a bit different if you don't act, so I'll set that one aside.

What harm does sex prior to marriage or gay marriage do to others?

I have gay relatives, gay co-workers, and gay friends; all of whom I love. However, I simply do not condone their bedroom decisions anymore than I condone the bedroom decisions of the adulterer relatives, co-workers, and friends I have. Furthermore, as much I may love these folks, I just don't want their adulterer lifestyles flaunted and forced upon me and my family. I also know several relatives, co-workers, and friends who regularly lust after women who are not their wives or spouses. I do not want them flaunting, displaying, or having laws put in place to enforce or justify their sin of lust of which I'd have to explain to my 5 year old daughter sooner than I'd certainly intended.

I wouldn't ask you to condone homosexual activity, you are welcome to your opinion.  But it is wrong to deny equality to others just because it makes you uncomfortable and you don't want to have to explain it to your daughter.

How does one flaunt an adulterer lifestyle, anyway?

But somehow, certain parts of society feel that I am wrong and that my 5 year old should be fully exposed to sexuality, homosexuality, adultery, and lust right now; not at my own or her own timeline. Some feel that if I should explain to her my belief these are sins, then I am a bigot. Some force upon us that if I do not capitulate, then I am an active bigot.

Certain parts of society want you to expose her to adultery and lust right now?  Explain how.

Homosexuality is part of sexuality, like it or not.  I fail to see how seeing two men or women getting married would scar her for life.  We're not asking you to show her gay porn.

To these, I say damned you. Every person should keep their sexual desires and sins private and should allow me the right to teach my children how I please and when I please about those who have different beliefs than us, rather than some judge or five justices forcing me by fiat to have to explain these things sooner than I intended.

 I can't wrap my head around this.  You should be advocating for no marriage at all based on this.  Oh, and you believe apples have no special powers, right?  I believe if I put an apple on my head it brings me good luck.  But in your world, I can't put an apple on my head in public because it would be pushing my beliefs on you and your daughter rather than letting you choose when to teach her apples aren't like that.