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Originally posted by: Lord Peeler
Nobody is on a witch hunt here, well except the fanboys with the tourches out in front of Skywalker Ranch hanging Lucas in effegy.
You are on a witch hunt. You sit here, twisting other people words against them. You sit here, poking fun at others. You sit here, heckling other people for their beliefs. If someone calling an entire board a group of "fanboys" isn't a witch hunt, what is?
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KlingonJedi, do not be surprised if some of the folks here turn on you for admitting to like the PT.
Shows how little you know of these boards. I've been here for months with my thoughts on the PT well known. Never once have I been attacked here for liking the PT. People like me, who hate the special editions for whatever reason, are attacked elsewhere. This board's downright tame in comparison. You've been posting here less than a month and presume you know everyone here? No sir, I will not let you classify people I enjoy talking to in such a way, or anyone for that matter. You do not know the people here, you do not talk to them outside accusing them. Do not act so high and mighty when you are oblivious to this board, as even my patience will wear thin. If it's one thing I truly despise, it's people who make wild generalisations based on ignorence. Just because we have some radicals, doesn't mean we're all radicals.
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If your theories on why TPM were true, then why did it sell so many millions of dollars in home video sales???
Again, don't asociate success with universal popularity. Starving the fans got their butts in the seats. Naturally, some liked it, others didn't. ID4 was popular too, does that mean everyone bought it? No it doesn't.
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Finally, I doubt what the people here say because so much of what they say is BS. For example, ILM invented CGI, yet on this board I've seen people say that ILM sucks at CGI. And if a film was universally hated as they claim TPM is, then how on Earth did it make $431 dollars and score so high on the Tomatoe meter??? Your argument that it was the first Star Wars film in 16 years doesn't hold water, because people had to keep going to see it more than once to add up to those numbers.
It does too hold water, as not everyone draws the same conclusions on first viewing. I'm not saying everyone hated it, nor are they. I am saying that just because it was successful, doesn't mean everyone loves it. Also, people will buy stuff they don't want. My dad does that. They'll also love a brand, no matter the quality. Add in the fact that there are people who could care less, and you have people buying it for whatever reason. From liking it to just because they collect videos. It's called an opinion, and they have every right to say they hated it as you do liking it. Same as they can have the opinion that Weta or Digital Domain does better CG work. Even if they did "invent it" as you claim, does that automatically make them the best, no matter what? I could care less what the critics think. Troy got lousy reviews, and I saw that twice. Guess I'm the exception to the rule, or do you not believe that possible.
Secondly, ILM didn't create CGI. Ever hear of "Tron"? It was the first film to use extensive computer special effects. At the time, all ILM did was a brief CG sequence in Star Trek II. They didn't have a CGI breakthrough until 1985 with Young Sherlock Holmes(a film which bombed). That's a full year after the CGI marvel of it time, The Last Starfighter. Do your homework next time. ILM has contributed to CGI, they didn't create it. I hold ILM as the best in the field, but I think their work on the Special Editioms was below their efforts. 1996's Star Trek: First Contact has effects well above the SEs. That was ILM at it's best. I couldn't believe why they slacked off on the SE.
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Catwoman was a movie that was universally hated. It failed to make $ 100 million. If you give TPM an opening weekend take of $100 or so, that doesn't add up to $431 million if people went to it and hated it.
You don't hate it. I don't hate it, so that means that not everyone hates it.
Nice that you understand that. Now understand that just because we like it, doesn't mean anyone else will or has to. My sister doesn't care much for them. Why should you care? Also, you've talked to maybe five people on this board. Most have not liked the prequels. Since that's five out of the 1,000+ members we have, does that mean everyone here hates it. Are you suggesting that I'm the lone exception?
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People here claim everyone hates it and it was booed. Well, if the first part doesn't check out that casts doubts on the second part.
When they saw it, it got booed, FACT. Chances are, when they discuss it, they've met more naysayers. They're going on their experiences, you're going on yours. Not everyone loves it, and I don't care. Not everyone hates it, and I don't care. Why, on Earth, does it matter to you? Where do you get off telling other people that all they spout is lies and BS? Who made you the infalible one? You claim that because you haven't experienced something, it makes it not so? You claim that just because something was successful, everyone must like it? If what they say is BS then you're guilty of it as well. I don't mind discussing things with you, in a civil manner. However, if you feel that must poke holes in their and my arguments, no matter what we say, then just say so. Say that you don't give a damn about others' right to an opinion, declare yourself eternally right, then leave us in peace. Because if that's the case, then you're wasting all our time. Opinions shall be heard, trolls shall not. If you can't trust anyone here, then what do you plan to accomplish? Bashing people certainly won't make them change their minds. If anything, you're causing more harm. If I had a mild problem with something, having someone heckle me for it only turns annoyance into anger.
Jay, if this doesn't clear up, please lock this thread. Any other forum would've long ago.