Warbler said:
RicOlie_2 said:
Warbler said:
MrBrown said:
Maybe it would be nessecary to divide between marriage by church and marriage by state?
As with thinks like other taxes for marriaged persons, or the right to visit the partner in a hospital, it is no more some kind of "religious only" thing.
If a catholic beliefe that a homosexual will burn in hell, and shall not be married in a catholic church: sad thing, but.. okay... house rules. (Going just as far as somebody has to suffer, so: NO EXORCISM!)
But: Why shall catholic interferre in questions regarding the legal questions, like:
- visiting in hospitals
- adopting children
- taxes
It is out of their house.
But here comes the point: They tend to demonstrate against things they just could ignore...
I agree here. Besides the law already recognizes marriages the Catholic Church would not. I could be mistaken(and please correct me if I am) but I don't think the Catholic Church recognizes any marriage that is not done by a Catholic Priest. In addition(and again correct me if I am wrong), I don't think the Catholic Church recognizes divorce. Therefore they would not recognize and marriage where one or both participants are previously divorced and the person(s) they are divorced to is still alive.
The Catholic Church accepts non-Catholic marriages for those who aren't members of the Church. If those people were to convert to the Church, they would not be required to remarry.
but if they do not convert, their marriage would not be recognized as legit by the Catholic Church correct?
No. I mean that the validity of their marriage is still recognized if they convert (EDIT: meaning that it is recognized beforehand).
RicOlie_2 said:
The Catholic Church does not accept divorce as a valid end to marriage, but annulments do happen, but in this case the marriage is considered never to have taken place in the first place since not all the requirements of a valid marriage were met. For example, if something important was concealed from one party that would have otherwise prevented the marriage from taking place, the marriage is not considered valid because it wouldn't have happened if the secret was known beforehand.
oh, I know you can do annulments, but I only taking about divorce. If one were to divorce and then try to marry someone else without getting an annulment, Catholic Priests would refuse to perform such a marriage, yes? If the couple were then to decide to get married by a judge, the marriage would not be recognized as legit by the Catholic Church, yes?
It would be a marriage recognized by the law as law and legit, with all the legals rights and tax stuff that would apply, but it would not be recognized by the church. Just like a gay marriage if that were to become legal.
That is correct.