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Actually, what you need to do is make 100% sure you have the video and audio done in a format that accomodates the capacity a dual-sided DVD. That ensures you have the highest quality possible, and sets you up for the future.

And from that base, there are many programs (like CloneDVD) that takes EXISTING dual-sided data and then filter it down for single-sided DVD duplication. If you want to produce a single-sided DVD, then filter down from the original, and distribute that, and this still leaves the option of a serious dual-sided version from the raw data.

Another key element is that these filter-down versions are of excellent quality when using dual-sided digital data, most times superior to down-sampled, imported video.
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One DVD is fine for now - it looks pretty darn good as is. (and I'm not into swapping discs in the middle of the film.)

People here will see how good it looks sometime this week. When I can get a DL burner, I'll make a DL version. It's really not all that hard. Patience.

"And from that base, there are many programs (like CloneDVD) that takes EXISTING dual-sided data and then filter it down for single-sided DVD duplication. If you want to produce a single-sided DVD, then filter down from the original, and distribute that, and this still leaves the option of a serious dual-sided version from the raw data."

While this is technically true, the quality of the encoder of such software isn't always of the same quality as that of a dedicated encoding program, such as MainConcept. The fact that such programs will re-encode the video far faster than that of real encoding programs speaks volumes. Generally, it's not very noticeable (I've used DVDShrink many times on DL media), but it's not something I want to do for my SW films, especially since I'll be receiving a professional-grade encoding program very soon.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Anyone willing to trade me the files of a decent bootleg of the original trilogy? I have plenty to trade in return.
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Originally posted by: jimmyjazz
Anyone willing to trade me the files of a decent bootleg of the original trilogy? I have plenty to trade in return.


absolutely! send me a PM and i'll hook you up!
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MeBeJedi,

Which encoder are you going to get? It wouldn't be CCE would it?

Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
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Hello everyone. Short time listener, first time poster.

I tried shooting a PM/Email to TR47 and got an auto-response that he's on vacation. Anyone know how long he'll be gone? Or is vacation, "code" for something else?

Nice to meet you all
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Originally posted by: Cassius76
Zion, how on earth did you create the ESB menu? It's extraordinary!
That was the result of teaching myself how to use Adobe After Effects. Not bad for a first attempt eh?

Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
[Monty Python] "It's just a model" [/Monty Python]


Sorry...

lol

Originally posted by: BadAsh71
Zion is using the "Faces" LDs as I believe MeBeJedi is as well.

The "Faces" set is the same as the Definitive but cleaned up a little more (especially ANH).

I believe MeBeJedi has been playing around with both.

Yeah, I've noticed that my "faces" capture is a lot more colorful than my definitive capture. I'm doing some color correction in Premiere right now and you won't believe how much better it looks. Screencaps coming soon...

My Projects:
[Holiday Special Hybrid DVD v2]
[X0 Project]
[Backstroke of the West DVD]
[ROTS Theatrical DVD]

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Okay, I wanna make a suggestion about the XviD you'll be upping, MeBeJedi:

Could you make the XviD using PCM audio rather than the 5.1? I can convert the video easily but the audio is a different story - if it's 5.1 I can't burn it (my program won't) but it will burn LPCM audio. As long as the audio is PCM I'm fine with that. That's why I had so much trouble burning Balance of the Force (which STILL looks like crap since the way I had to do it squished the video; if the audio had been LPCM or MPEG layer 2, I could've separated video/audio and converted the video separately in a way that didn't squish the video, but having 5.1 I have to use another program which can do that sometimes).
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"Could you make the XviD using PCM audio rather than the 5.1? I can convert the video easily but the audio is a different story - if it's 5.1 I can't burn it (my program won't) but it will burn LPCM audio. As long as the audio is PCM I'm fine with that. That's why I had so much trouble burning Balance of the Force (which STILL looks like crap since the way I had to do it squished the video; if the audio had been LPCM or MPEG layer 2, I could've separated video/audio and converted the video separately in a way that didn't squish the video, but having 5.1 I have to use another program which can do that sometimes)."

As much as I would love to accomodate you, FairUse only reads AC3 tracks. I could encode it as a simple DD 2.0 soundtrack. The only other alternative would be to get Rik to put the PCM soundtrack on BitTorrents for you. I, myself, cannot: 1) I have dial-up service, 2) the file is 1.2 Gbs, and 3) I could never get BitTorrents to work for me.

I'm see if I could get him to help you out.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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There are programs out there that can convert the autio to PCM for you.

Or, as someone suggested in the Edits thread, try "DVD Santa".
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There sure are a bunch of Ashes around here.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Converting AC3 5.1 to PCM 2.0 is easy with mplayer-mingw32:

mplayer -ao pcm -vc dummy -vo null filename.avi

presto, 2.0 PCM WAV in audiodump.wav

Moll.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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I used DVDSanta for the Balance XviD and that's what squished it, since it doesn't stretch the video to proper 16:9 it just leaves it and adds black bars on the top and bottom. Which is fine except that the XviD was squished into 45:22 (2.05:1) when it should have been 16:9 (1.77:1). As long as yours is either true 4:3 (1.33:1) or 16:9 (1.77:1 or 1.78:1, I don't remember and I dont think that matters as much), I'll be okay.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
There sure are a bunch of Ashes around here.


Yeah, I am amazed there wasn't something about us in the "Kevin Smith" thread.

-Good, bad, I'm the one with the gun
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Actually, Ash, I may attempt to make an XVID from the source material itself, rather than master a DVD and make it from the result MPEG. I don't know if Vegas will do it, but I'll certainly try. If it can, then I'll encode it with the original PCM.

Just for you.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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The correct quote is "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." Or "I ain't that good," depending on whether or not you're watching the Director's Cut or the Theatrical Cut.



And it seems 1.77:1 is actually 39:22, so 16:9 must be 1.78:1, but 77 works fine since my copy of the pilot episode of LOST (I taped over it with Survivor accidentally) is perfectly all right.
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
Actually, Ash, I may attempt to make an XVID from the source material itself, rather than master a DVD and make it from the result MPEG. I don't know if Vegas will do it, but I'll certainly try. If it can, then I'll encode it with the original PCM.

Just for you.


Why, thanks, I appreciate it. It doesn't matter if it doesn't work, I can just use DVD Santa in that case.

Out of curiosity, how does Ulead DVD Workshop 2 work quality-wise when it doesn't have to convert anything? Anybody know? Cause I've never burned anything with it since I've always had to convert it and (my version anyway) won't take AC3 files, which is why I'd need LPCM for that. It'll convert video and audio but I've heard it does a shitty job at it.

--EDIT--

Tell ya what. I'll do another burn of Balance while I'm out today, without omitting the quote at the beginning like I did before (that may be the reason it doesn't play on my Toshiba in my room). If that works fine upstairs, forget the whole PCM/AC3 thing and do it whatever way is easiest to you, I'll use DVD Santa for it.
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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
The correct quote is "Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun." Or "I ain't that good," depending on whether or not you're watching the Director's Cut or the Theatrical Cut.



Groovy
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MeBeJedi, I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but DL burners can be found for very cheap right now. Pricewatch has a NEC 2510A (it is at 2.4x speeds for DL so that isn't that attractive) for $64 shipped from NewEgg. NewEgg's server is down right now, but that's pretty darn cheap if you ask me so start saving your penny's. I'd love to see your new set on DL, but now I'm just getting greedy. LOL
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Whew. I deserve a medal or glowing orb or something for reading all of the preceding 91 pages.

First I'd just like to say that all of your work (MeBeJedi, Zion, the "supplier" for TR47) looks fantastic. This is exactly what I've been wanting to do ever since learning about the new "official" DVDs, and here you are way ahead of me. The truth is, from reading the specifics of your work over the last bazillion pages it's clear that I probably could never do this to the standard that you guys have.

I was never a Star Wars "freak" or fanboy or whatever, but I loved the OT as they were some of the first movies I remember seeing and I was in the middle of Lucas's/Kenner's prime demographic during the ROTJ commercial years. Great memories. And while I hated the Speacial Editions, Star Wars was never important enough to me to warrant making my own version off of an old Laserdisc.

But...now I have a son, and it horrifies me that he, at the tender age of six or so, should have to see a trilogy in which Greedo shoots first (or at the same time, or at all, or whatever), the Emperor has to tell Vader that Luke is his son (thus ruining it for anyone who actually watches the films in their rightful order), a music video from Fraggle Rock breaks out in Jabba's Palace, and a scraggly-haired kid who Luke has never seen before appears at the end of the series. I could go on, of course, but...I'll stop...I'm getting upset.

Anyway, thank you guys for all the work you're doing. You've made me excited about Star Wars for the first time in twenty years.
"To all you Vader-Haters out there: we'll blow your planet up!"
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"but DL burners can be found for very cheap right now."

True, but there are some personal issues preventing me from buying one nonetheless, at least at this point in time.

Besides, if I'm getting one, I'm getting a Sony - no if's, and's or but's.

"it's clear that I probably could never do this to the standard that you guys have."

There is definitely a steep and expensive learning curve, but it's nice to be over the hump, so to speak.

BTW, I'm glad to know we've restored your hope in the Original Trilogy.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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BTW, someone brought this up a while back but I don't recall a specific reply. Does anybody recognize this version (based on the menus and whatnot)?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6327080681&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT

It looks somewhat snazzy, but I'm sure that if I bought it I'd then find out here that it was manufactured in Bangalore by chimpanzees using fullscreen VHS tapes.

Thanks.
"To all you Vader-Haters out there: we'll blow your planet up!"
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but I'm sure that if I bought it I'd then find out here that it was manufactured in Bangalore by chimpanzees using fullscreen VHS tapes.
There really is no way of telling what version that is... the poor spelling in the ad doesnt inspire confidence. I dont even bother with ebay anymore. THe best versions are right here.

aka nostromo777 on myspleen

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I'm wondering how you would encode a dual layered version. My preferred encoder is TMPGEnc Plus 2.5 only because that is what I know. If you were to just encode a dual layered version, how would you do it? Would you consult a bitrate calculator like the one from Videohelp and then input the numbers in your encoder? I know there are authoring programs that support dual layer burning, but does anyone know of a dual layer encoder?

Thanks.

Patrick
"When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." - Tuco from The Good, The Bad And The Ugly