Bingowings said:
Warbler said:
Bingowings said:
or accuse you of something totally unfounded like being a closeted homosexual.
Now you here you are way off base. I am not attracted to men and have no desire to have any sort sexual relations with men. It is that simple. Also you being a accused of playing devils advocate is not totally unfounded. It seems like every time I state an opinion on something you have to come in and take the opposite side. And I am not the only one that thinks you play devils advocate.
Bingowings said:
That would unfair right?
It is unfair to even slighlty imply that I am a closed homosexual just because I am a virgin and haven't gone on a date yet. That was just low.
Bingowings said:
You don't have to agree with me but just shrugging off what I'm saying because you can't be bothered to study the origins of your own religion is rather rude.
am I am so sure you have a done complete exhaustive non-biased research or my religion instead of only focusing on the things that back up your claims about my religion. yeah right.
But I didn't accuse of being homosexual.
you implied it slightly otherwise why bring the closeted homosexual thing into this.
Bingowings said:
I accused you of not bothering to investigate what you believe in (which you went on to confirm with the quoted statement)
I don't need to investigate what I believe in. What I believe in, isn't a matter of research and weighing evidence. MY religious beliefs are based on faith.
Bingowings said:
and my research was initially as unbiased as probable because when when I was a child I used to believe the Christian myth entirely. Investigation removed that certainty.
I don't believe it is unbiased.
Bingowings said:
She doesn't believe all gay people are dirty and will burn in hell and all epileptic people are possessed by demons anymore after her son had to conclude he was both.
I don't believe all gay people are dirty and will burn in hell. I certainly don't believe all epileptic people are possessed by demons.
Bingowings said:
If I have a bias now maybe that's were it comes from.
Its possible.
I could be wrong, but from what it sounds like, you had a very difficult Christian upbringing. It sounds like they(whatever Christian group you belonged to) focused move on teaching and pounding into you all the rules and whatnot and failed to show true Christian love and the love Christ has for you. So many Christians focus on the rules and what is and is not sin and forget the love part.
Bingowings said:
She hopes to see my late father again in heaven something I don't have any desire to pull down but knowing the history of the formation of the Biblical texts and a basic understanding of science I can't believe in them as the literal truth.
Science can conclusively disprove God. It may be able to poke holes in the Genesis story but many Christians don't believe that all of Genesis is the literal truth.
And are you really sure you know and understand the history of the formation of the Biblical texts?
Bingowings said:
You have to be blinkered to believe them literally.
ah so if you believe in the Bible you're crazy, how tolerant of you.
btw, I am not sure I believe the entire book literally.
Bingowings said:
As metaphor they send mixed signals.
It's the reason for the old truism about not talking about religion or politics.
The text can and has been interpreted in a myriad of ways to justify almost anything (most of which has been in my view and experience evil).
It's so nebulous and contradictory that it inevitably provokes division and sectarianism.
I agree the text can be and has been interpreted in different ways. Biblical interpretation can be a complicated issue.
and as for not talking about religion of politics. One of the reasons people don't talk about these things is because of people like you that can't do it sensitively.