vacuum said:
the storyline made no sense but it was very entertaining.
Harmy said:
^This.
I have to disagree here. It was much better than the 2009 reboot, but I didn't enjoy it at all. It was essentially a safe, braindead rip-off of Star Trek 2 in which everything that's been ripped off worked to the detriment of the movie because of the way it was handled this time around. On top of that, what's been altered and added was geared strictly towards the cheap seats and just not good enough. You don't get to have a (highly dramatic) reveal with no surprise, and the set-up was inept to the point where you didn't even need to know about ST2 in order to not get surprised. That bugged the hell out of me.
I'm fine with a few subtle callbacks, but I'm not fine with what effectively constitutes almost a feature length clip show. Plus I've got a lot of problems with the script for that movie aside from what I've already mentioned. Mind you, script-wise ST 2009 was equally bad, if not worse, but there wasn't a lot to it. If you're aiming higher (and they did aim higher with that whole "Kirk isn't ready" business), you need to up your game. Abrams and co. didn't up their game, hence the movie actually feels inferior to ST 2009, even if it's actually not.
ST2 had a theme supported by its narrative. STID craps all over its supposed theme with the narrative, because $$$. I agree that safe in the case of Star Wars would be an improvement at this point, but keep in mind that the PT is the lowest possible bar you could set for a movie and there is such a thing as "too safe".
Darth Lucas said:
I don't get the hate for Abrams. So far he's proven to be a fantastic director. The hate toward his Star Trek films are mostly do to them being not exactly true to the spirit of Star Trek (and lens flares, but I seriously doubt he'll do that for SW), but that's because he isn't a Star Trek fan, whereas he is a HUGE Star Wars fan. And really, if you look at the plot of Star Trek (2009) and the overall styling of the film, its basically Star Wars set in the Star Trek universe, with Kirk playing the same sort of role as Luke, Pike as Ben, Spock as Han, Uhura as Leia, and Scotty and the little alien dude (don't know his name, sorry) as C-3PO and R2D2. He knows what he's doing guys. Plus Kasdan is writing, so we have an amazing writer, a really good director, most of the principle cast assumed to return, and John Williams returning to do the music. I think it's safe to say our beloved franchise is in good hands.
I think I've responded to your post with my rant, heh.