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imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
Everybody, what is your greatest fear for episodes 7-9?
Lens flares. It may not be the greatest fear but it is surely the most justified.
You mean like these?
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Reegar said:
You're equating name origins with visual consistency between actors who are supposed to be playing the same character? I guess, if you want.
And if you're planning to eventually paint this as something that it's not (we both know what I'm referring to; and I'm not accusing you, but only saying): You mentioned race first. My original post was conveniently vague.
Getting back to Star Wars, I'm not sure what kind of visual inconsistency you are concerned about in terms of casting. Or maybe you're not. You were conveniently vague.
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imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
Everybody, what is your greatest fear for episodes 7-9?
Lens flares. It may not be the greatest fear but it is surely the most justified.
Wasn't JJ's lensflare obsession pretty much limited to his Star Trek movies? I remember a line on the audio commentary about his idea being "the future is so bright you can't contain it." I don't remember there being much lensflare in M:I-3.
They were pretty prevalent in Super8 and didn't detract from how much I love that film but I'd prefer not to see them in Star Wars. Hopefully JJ knows to keep his signature tricks out of this one in order to create a more, for lack of a better term, timeless-looking film. I'm not expecting '70s (or even early '80s) aesthetics in the overall look, but I wouldn't mind if Abrams studied that era a little more closely.
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bkev said:
They were pretty prevalent in Super8 and didn't detract from how much I love that film
Granted, with "Super 8" he mimicked "Close Encounters" both in style and tone, and CE was FULL of lens flares, so that was pretty spot on (no pun intended). Generally Spielberg used them a LOT in his most iconic movies, and they never bothered me a bit.
Laserschwert said:
bkev said:
They were pretty prevalent in Super8 and didn't detract from how much I love that film
Granted, with "Super 8" he mimicked "Close Encounters" both in style and tone, and CE was FULL of lens flares, so that was pretty spot on (no pun intended). Generally Spielberg used them a LOT in his most iconic movies, and they never bothered me a bit.
Isn't the difference that JJ had to digitally add them in for Super8 whereas CE had them because that's the way that real-film Panavision cameras worked back then?
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Well, it's not like Spielberg put them in frame BY ACCIDENT. Those were, of course, conscious creative decisions. (cause if he didn't want lens flares, he'd had pointed the lights somewhere else)
Laserschwert said:
Well, it's not like Spielberg put them in frame BY ACCIDENT. Those were, of course, conscious creative decisions. (cause if he didn't want lens flares, he'd had pointed the lights somewhere else)
Good point. I see what you mean now.
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Although Abrams is of course nowhere near Spielberg's level of being able to construct shots. But generally speaking, that's not really necessary for a SW movie. SW always looked very static in terms of staging... almost no dolly moves, no crane shots, no complex steadycam work. Kershner brought some of that into Empire, but that's pretty much it. ILM did a lot more of that stuff for the spaceship shots.
TK-949 said:
imperialscum said:
darklordoftech said:
Everybody, what is your greatest fear for episodes 7-9?
Lens flares. It may not be the greatest fear but it is surely the most justified.
You mean like these?
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No, not like those. Those were probably part of the SFX and look like its part of the engine exhaust. I don't want them to shine all over character's faces.
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I change my mind. I think Abrams is going to make the SW franchise ten times worse than it is now, just like he destroyed Star Trek. He is the film equivalent of a necrophiliac. And he is the perfect director to make corporate cash cow products because he is their ideal director: safe and profitable. He might as well be an android. In two years time, we will all end up feeling nostalgic for the prequels. It's that bad guys.
Mrebo said:
Reegar said:
You're equating name origins with visual consistency between actors who are supposed to be playing the same character? I guess, if you want.
And if you're planning to eventually paint this as something that it's not (we both know what I'm referring to; and I'm not accusing you, but only saying): You mentioned race first. My original post was conveniently vague.
Getting back to Star Wars, I'm not sure what kind of visual inconsistency you are concerned about in terms of casting. Or maybe you're not. You were conveniently vague.
There's nobody in particular at the moment who's in danger of being miscast, as in a pre-existing character. Most of these characters will likely be original.
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What if Abrams throws in his "mystery box" into the ST? Better run.
Comparing him to a necro is a little harsh. He's not the only director for hire in the industry.
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generalfrevious said:
I change my mind. I think Abrams is going to make the SW franchise ten times worse than it is now, just like he destroyed Star Trek. He is the film equivalent of a necrophiliac. And he is the perfect director to make corporate cash cow products because he is their ideal director: safe and profitable. He might as well be an android. In two years time, we will all end up feeling nostalgic for the prequels. It's that bad guys.
And we don't even have a teaser trailer yet! ;)
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Fringe was full of them.Fang Zei said:
Wasn't JJ's lensflare obsession pretty much limited to his Star Trek movies? I remember a line on the audio commentary about his idea being "the future is so bright you can't contain it." I don't remember there being much lensflare in M:I-3.
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I don't want to see an army of Sith because:
1. They'd kill each other off. Not a threat to anybody else and not learning from history.
2. "Death Star syndrome". Just like the second Death Star made an individual Death Star less threatening, an army of Sith would make an individual Sith less threatening.
AntcuFaalb said:
Laserschwert said:
bkev said:
They were pretty prevalent in Super8 and didn't detract from how much I love that film
Granted, with "Super 8" he mimicked "Close Encounters" both in style and tone, and CE was FULL of lens flares, so that was pretty spot on (no pun intended). Generally Spielberg used them a LOT in his most iconic movies, and they never bothered me a bit.
Isn't the difference that JJ had to digitally add them in for Super8 whereas CE had them because that's the way that real-film Panavision cameras worked back then?
Hmmm? It was shot in the exact same format (anamorphic panavision). I would think the flares in Super8 are all in-camera.
Anyway, to be fair, there are some subtle (and probably unintentional) lensflares in the OT. The shootout in the detention block of the Death Star comes to mind.
Fang Zei said:
AntcuFaalb said:
Laserschwert said:
bkev said:
They were pretty prevalent in Super8 and didn't detract from how much I love that film
Granted, with "Super 8" he mimicked "Close Encounters" both in style and tone, and CE was FULL of lens flares, so that was pretty spot on (no pun intended). Generally Spielberg used them a LOT in his most iconic movies, and they never bothered me a bit.
Isn't the difference that JJ had to digitally add them in for Super8 whereas CE had them because that's the way that real-film Panavision cameras worked back then?
Hmmm? It was shot in the exact same format (anamorphic panavision). I would think the flares in Super8 are all in-camera.
Anyway, to be fair, there are some subtle (and probably unintentional) lensflares in the OT. The shootout in the detention block of the Death Star comes to mind.
Oh, I thought that Super 8 was shot on digital rather than film. My mistake.
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I don't think J.J. has ever shot on digital? Also probably important to note that you can still pick up lens flares with a digital camera.
Anyway I remember an interview where he said they had to digitally remove some lens flares from STID.
DominicCobb said:
I don't think J.J. has ever shot on digital? Also probably important to note that you can still pick up lens flares with a digital camera.
I heard somewhere that the really expensive digital cameras use realtime algorithms to compensate for the flares. I guess this is why I've been making some confusing posts in this thread. LOL! :-D
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