logo Sign In

Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features — Page 16

Author
Time

Here's the thread. Please help if you can - no amount is too small! We won't accept funds until we are sure we have the total amount, if that is worrying people... :)

Author
Time

Suggestion: For Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, change...

Doctor M said:

Purist recommendation: Film reels(?)

to

Doctor M said:

Purist recommendation: Film reels(?), Italian Bootleg VHS(?)

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

Author
Time

There's an Italian Bootleg VHS?  PM me please...

Dr. M

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Doctor M said:

There's an Italian Bootleg VHS?  PM me please...

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Snow White- Leonardo has a pre-restoration bootleg VHS with perhaps the most accurate colors (substantially different than any post restoration version, though I agree BD appears to be the best of a bad bunch)

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I think he's talking about my tape. EDIT: You're a quick one, Mr Ant!

I now have a Panny NV FS 200 but my hard drive is fried. I'm looking into hdd recovery options, there was tons of stuff in that drive that I'd hate to lose.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Leonardo said:

I think he's talking about my tape. EDIT: You're a quick one, Mr Ant!

Yep, I am!

I found a sample of it on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xZoCi24bII

JEDIT: Also, lots of hits on Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=Biancaneve+e+i+Sette+Nani+Eclecta

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

Author
Time

Nice, we finally found a sample!

The clip mainly showcases the many widescreen inserts I spoke about, those were spliced in because they had the italian text in it. But you can get a glimpse of the colour of the print. How does that look to you?

Author
Time

My head almost exploded when I saw they even repainted the dwarf names on the beds in Italian.  Weird.

Dr. M

Author
Time

Doctor M said:

My head almost exploded when I saw they even repainted the dwarf names on the beds in Italian.  Weird.

Then I take it you have never seen the other releases of "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", like for example the Swedish release where the beds actually had been repainted in Swedish. 

Currently enjoying Disney Infinity 3.0

Author
Time

Doctor M said:

My head almost exploded when I saw they even repainted the dwarf names on the beds in Italian.  Weird.

That was done by Disney, they used to care about international versions... I don't believe that text is on the Dvd or Bluray release, now. As a matter of fact, what you hear in the clip is the 1972 redub. There was a theatrical dub in 1938, but Disney just doesn't care about it nowadays. They just ignore it and pretend it never existed, just like Cinderella and Peter Pan's  original dub tracks.

Author
Time

Doctor M, sorry if I derail a bit from the thread, but not too much...

I need opinions about my latest test clips of "Beauty and the Beast [ruLes]" project - a laserdisc preservation, source captured with the Pioneer HLD-X9, then cleaned and upscaled; will be released as BD-25.

Just go to visit this post, download them, and vote which is the best in your opinion; the script will be used to render the whole movie.

Thanks in advance to everybody that would like to spend some minutes to download, watch and vote.

 

Sadly my projects are lost due to an HDD crash… 😦 | [Fundamental Collection] thread | blog.spoRv.com | fan preservation forum: fanres.com

Author
Time
 (Edited)

 Yes, Disney did foreign language versions for scenes with text, AT LEAST from "Snow White" to "Lady and the Tramp". "The Little Mermaid" also had the actual title ( with the ripple effect) in Portuguese, and if my memory serves me right, I think its first vhs release still included that.

   It's a pity earlier foreign versions of the Disney features are left to rot in some vault. As I've mentioned in an earlier post, The Brazilian versions are not only historically interesting, they feature important artists early on in their careers, and since the redubbing began in the 1960's, before home video, not even snippets are available... A shame!

Author
Time
 (Edited)

A question, has there ever been or is anyone working on a Lion King LD preservation?

Oh, and anyone who likes Beauty and the Beast should definitely be following _,,,^..^,,,_'s project.  The HD upscaling is detailed and quite impressive and the image is much cleaner than you would expect from an analog source.

Dr. M

Author
Time

Some more changes to the guide.  Rewording in Rescuers Down Under.  I've had a better look at the BD image and it is surprisingly nice.  There's film grain... which actually makes no sense since AFAIK it comes from the CAPS computer.  At least it isn't overscrubbed.

Downgraded ADM's Aladdin to Acceptable Alternative with the CAV LD as the first choice.  I wasn't aware of the extent of reanimation performed for an IMAX release that didn't happen.

Upgraded Lion King BD as the first Acceptable Alternative since it sports the same changes as the prior DVD but with much better image quality.

Dr. M

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Rescuers Down Under doesn't come from the CAPS files. It comes from an interpositive, like all the previous transfers. I believe it's the only CAPS-era film to have never been released remastered from the original computer files.

The only place you can see a direct-digital transfer is the excerpt in Waking Sleeping Beauty - not sure why, if they were making a digital-to-digital of that scene for Don Hahn, they didn't do the whole film. Perhaps they probably didn't see financial incentive in it, due to its lukewarm reputation and the fact that it's just the second half of a double-feature release.

Author
Time

Looks like Mickey's Christmas Carol got a very DNR-happy release.  We're not talking Sorcerer's bad, but damn if it isn't close.  Plus your standard cropping, but I'm less worried about that due to the fact that it was likely presented this way at one point.

A Goon in a Gaggle of 'em

Author
Time

RDU was pretty grainy on Laserdisc, IIRC.

Forum Moderator

Where were you in '77?

Author
Time

bkev said:

Looks like Mickey's Christmas Carol got a very DNR-happy release.  We're not talking Sorcerer's bad, but damn if it isn't close.  Plus your standard cropping, but I'm less worried about that due to the fact that it was likely presented this way at one point.

So what's the recommended edition of this?  This is the first mention of Mickey's Christmas Carol in this thread.

 

Author
Time

bkev said:

Looks like Mickey's Christmas Carol got a very DNR-happy release.  We're not talking Sorcerer's bad, but damn if it isn't close.  Plus your standard cropping, but I'm less worried about that due to the fact that it was likely presented this way at one point.

That is absolutely disgusting. It's that same awful filter they used for The Sword and the Stone. I think this is some of the worst DNR I've seen on bluray.

Author
Time

Looks horrendous. Did they run it through Photoshop with "Diffuse-Anisotropic" on? Because that's what it looks like!

Author
Time

Mickey's Christmas Carol wasn't listed because it wasn't a theatrical release.

I have no idea what the best answer is for that one.

Dr. M

Author
Time
 (Edited)

penguinofgreatness said:

Doctor M said:

Mickey's Christmas Carol wasn't listed because it wasn't a theatrical release.

It actually was.

Fair point but it's not a feature film.

That said, people still deserve to know what the best version is.

DVDizzy.com:

It's possible to have been exposed to this short on no fewer than four DVDs: first, edited into the 2001 direct-to-video Mickey's Magical Christmas: Snowed In at the House of Mouse, then in a more complete form on Disc 2 of the Walt Disney Treasures' 2004 tin Mickey Mouse in Living Color, Volume Two, and again in a comparable pair of holiday short compilations, 2005's Classic Holiday Stories (Volume 9 in the Classic Cartoon Favorites line) and 2009's self-titled entry as the seventh and final volume in the Walt Disney Animation Collection: Classic Short Films series. (If you'd like, feel free to also count the 2009 repackaging of Mickey's Magical Christmas.)

Since Disney has been doing the worst damage cleaning up their films for Blu-ray, I suspect any of the older releases should be good.

The WD Treasures is 1.66:1, the later DVDs are 1.33:1 open matte. (why is this font small?)

 

Dr. M

Author
Time
 (Edited)

  I can kind of understand there are no plans for further "Disney Treasures" releases at this point. The economy is not so great, Blu-ray, streaming and piracy make everything harder and more confusing... lavishly restored classic DVDs with lots of bonus materials are simply not selling so well anymore, I hear. So although I lament it, I can kind of understand that decision from the business point of view.

   They could, however, manage to release more titles AT LEAST as part of the "Disney Generations" line. Barebones and "presented as available at this point" they might be, but they're at least, well, available. I can't believe "Mr. Boogedy" and "Bride of Boogedy" haven't had any kind of official release, just to mention a couple of obvious choices.