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adywan said:

lastjedi said:

i really hate in the bluray version during the battle of hoth that the dish gun when it fires at the walkers leg just vanishes.it doesn't show the leg light up anymore to show it took some kind of damage.adywans version doesn't show this either.still hoping he puts that back in.

The flash is there in both the original (GOUT) and the blu-ray version. It's just that they recomposited the flash for the SE's so it looks a little different.

Definitely one of the things I thought would be improved for the SE, but never was. It's always bothered me.

Monroville said:

Would it be possible to see laser blasts bouncing off the AT-AT armor?

Also (this may have been discussed), but considering how the original beam from the dish cannon(s) had a multi-hued beam, I assume they are mini ion guns?  If so, should their beams be more blue along with the large ion cannon?  I could see the possibility of seeing the dish laser blast bounce off the knee, or the ion electricity moving around the knee but with no effect.

They always looked different than regular lasers, it looks like the dish is charging before shooting so yeah, I'm all for the idea of making them look as mini ion canons with blue hue beams. Love it!

I never thought of them like this to be honest but this was brought up before.

I thought the dish should take down an AT-ST when we first saw their inclusion but some more pronounced effect on hitting an AT-AT leg would help it look better.

I have a question about the shield generator explosion.

If the original explosion was in the vivaldi trailer why was the explosion not put in the film?

I think that it would be great if you could get somone profficient or even very skilled with these visual effects plug in's like fume fx but looking at the shot i think most green screen explosion effects would still be an improvement but the issue is the same explosion across 2 shots at different angles which is why you have to do it this way.

But i have a suggestion for the explosion of the shield generator once hit the ice should start to crack outwards and fracture around it's base along the ground that would be a nice effect i think.

Ronster said:

I thought the dish should take down an AT-ST when we first saw their inclusion but some more pronounced effect on hitting an AT-AT leg would help it look better.

hm, would be nice to have this "mini-ion cannon" firing either first on the AT-AT leg, only to show sparks/ electric discharge, and later to hit an AT-ST, which then stops in motion and falling down ;-)

or it could be a "major-laser", burning the leg/knee part and after that (or before) destroy an AT-ST like in one of the Endor scenes ...

Not Bad monroville...

I was kinda thinking like this but a quake / crack because in the next scene we see Han and Leia blocked by a large chunk of ice falling.

So note the ice crack effects 0:38 without the upward explosions from the cracks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOGG-WsGXAY

Sorry I know it's a cheesy film but this effect would be great I think shooting off in a couple of directions.

Perhaps a good re-framing of the scene by an artist.

Something about this image put's the idea in my mind of bringing the shot before where we see the AT-AT hit a troop with the side guns and then fire the under chin shot for the destruction looking back from the shield generator. perhaps the Under the chin guns could be re-timed to fire that small fraction of a second sooner

Then this frees up the next shot of the explosion entirely and center of screen. The Shot and Impact are on the same shot and we as viewers are positioned right beside the shield generator when it get's hit.

This would mean bringing the shield generator a lot closer in previous shots so the AT-AT's fire from a shorter distance but I don't think that would be such a Bad thing.

The whole sequence is all quite random shots what with the snowspeeder crashing on exactly the same background as the shield generator destruction scene and placement of AT-AT's we are shown 3 together then we are shown AT'AT's on their own god only knows how this mess can be sorted out.

But being in there with the impact next to the shield generator and then cutting back to a full on center of screen destruction if possible I think is the way to go.

And there is another way to see it too. from this image I found I got to this mock-up of a re-frame.

Just ideas really but I like the sense of scale being brought forward and it's a shame we never followed up the rear of the AT-AT's pushing forward.

I think you got some good points here, maybe some can be included ...

as for the cracking of ice sounds, here are some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL3EjH9-WSs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eg-kK6FeRQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_jIJe0UY8

ok, it's more of a roaring like thunder, but with some tweaking one could build some acceptable effects ;-)

Some nice images by a great CG artist Stinton:

You've likely heard of him before,....he's the guy who's created a mesh af the studio set Falcon....interior & exterior

His Blog

J

Beautiful work.

I managed to pick up a 1997 DVD this weekend of ESB

I only skimmed over it but a few things I noticed straight off the Bat.

1.The AT-AT Binocular shot reveal seems to be much cleaner than the Special edition version and there is more definition in it.

2. As we said earlier on the page the Dish shooting the AT-AT Leg is better in the 1997 DVD and the shield generator getting hit is mildly clearer also.

3. Blue tinted stars during the asteroid field chase sequence really give the sequence something.. Although probably considered bad I really thought this was the best way I have seen it look in terms of atmosphere. I wonder if it was intentional but I doubt it. I started thinking of dust haze that could make the tint to the stars plausible.

I think if this look could be recaptured.. Perhaps this was the intention? but this is the main thing I took away after seeing the film.

Asteroid canyon also looked better too just slightly.

4. The music cues on Cloud city with the cloud car fly through removed are better than the special edition

5. Not listed on any SE change list when Lando, Leia etal are trying to escape cloud city the Special edition added "Look out" "Behind us"" audio for the crowd. Please use the GOUT audio on this one. But I still think it cut's off too quick when we cut to Chewie and R2 with the storm trooper in pursuit.

This is just some brief opinions after watching that really stood out to me that I wanted to share.

Ronster said:

1997 DVD 

Huh?

This one

Isn't that the 2006 DVD with the shoddy Laserdisc transfer as a bonus disk? I.E. the GOUT.....

EDIT: Yes it is.....The 1997 SE has never been released beyond VHS

I don't know this is the best I could get my hands on :)

Never had a laser disc and don't have a VHS anymore :)

I think you are right this is the 2006. My Bad

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think Boba Fett is ever named in the original film. This kinda seems weird in hindsight, so perhaps when Han and Leia realize Lando betrayed them, and he comes out, Han can simply say, "Boba Fett" off screen just so that this otherwise unnamed bounty hunter has, well, a name. The first time he's named in the entire original trilogy is right before he gets killed in ROTJ.

I fail to see why that's a problem.

It's the same problem with Qui-gon not being named until the second act of TPM: a character this important and that has this much impact on the plot shouldn't just be some anonymous person. Even if he is mysterious, we should still have something to call him by instead of just "that bounty hunter"

sonofjones said:

It's the same problem with Qui-gon not being named until the second act of TPM: a character this important and that has this much impact on the plot shouldn't just be some anonymous person. Even if he is mysterious, we should still have something to call him by instead of just "that bounty hunter"

I couldn't disagree more.

Monroville said:

 those western movies in the 1960's... what were those called again?

Amazing.

Okay, first off, it's not even close to the same thing. The Man with no name was supposed to be nameless (and even then the good the bad and the ugly called him blondie), second Boba Fett is clearly supposed to have a name, but the movie fails to mention it at any point. It dosen't come off as them trying to add to a mysterious character so much as forgetting to mention his name. He's obviously meant to be named, but you have to have outside resources to actually know it.