The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released) — Page 2

no, because the u.s. bd as different opening logos.

capturing the audio at 16bit 48k has no impact on syncing.

     I only ask about 48K because I made a new discovery. For years I've video recorded live bands with miniDV camcorders, and a separate soundboard audio source using a digital field recorder. I had the field recorder set to 16B 44K. I would then import the video to my computer via Firewire, and with it being digital video (or maybe all video being imported) Vegas sets the quantization & sample freq at 16B 48K. Once I started the editing of the multi-camera show, (all of the camera angles and the soundboard audio synced up), I noticed the board audio drifted a bit from the camera audio. Then I recorded a show at 16B 48K, and the board audio didn't drift at all from the video audio.

      I'm currently working on a Despecialized ANH, using the BD for the video and the '92 laserdisc for the audio. I imported the LD at 16B 48K, and so far it's synced up pretty good to the BD. I can't help but wonder if it would not have had I selected 44k? When I check the Properties in Vegas, it shows the 6.1 DTS audio from the BD is at 48K. And that's why I'm wondering if you're working with audio for video, if it needs to be sampled at 48K.

Thanks again!

The old Terminator LD Mono is the only way to go. I will try to learn how to make bit-perfect audio copying and then support this forum as good as I can.

Cherio.

Given I saved *just* the movie for this project, the MGM logo in my given case was ommitted. In the new R1 bluray file structure, the MGM open is its own entity. But once I edited that section out of the mono wav file ..again for my given way I needed / used it.. the results were PERFECT! The wav audio offers a lossless presentation of the original mix, and I am still able to sample the new 5.1 remix with a touch of a button. It is amazing how many changes were done, and by keeping both mixes, it is very easy to switch back and fourth.

And I will begrudgingly admit to this as well: While the original mono mix should have and *always* needs to be included, being able to switch back and fourth did bring me a little more appreciation for the new very aggressive 5.1 remix. Not a complete appreciation, as I still prefer the original sound effects and opening music cues, but having both options really makes a difference.

Does this track sync with the USA remastered Blu-ray release?

DarthCanoli said:

Does this track sync with the USA remastered Blu-ray release?

 Dude, just find the "re-graded re-scored" edit on the 'spleen. It's the new blu-ray with the proper color timing AND it gives you the choice between the original mono and the 5.1. No need to do the work yourself. I got that sucker about a month ago and I've already watched it like 5 times. It's glorious.

<blockquote><p><strong>TylerDurden389</strong> said:</p><blockquote>
<p><strong>DarthCanoli</strong> said:</p>
<p>Does this track sync with the USA remastered Blu-ray release?</p>
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<p> Dude, just find the "re-graded re-scored" edit on the 'spleen. It's the new blu-ray with the proper color timing AND it gives you the choice between the original mono and the 5.1. No need to do the work yourself. I got that sucker about a month ago and I've already watched it like 5 times. It's glorious.</p></blockquote><p> </p>
Thanks, I'll grab that one instead.

TylerDurden389 said:

DarthCanoli said:

Does this track sync with the USA remastered Blu-ray release?

 Dude, just find the "re-graded re-scored" edit on the 'spleen. It's the new blu-ray with the proper color timing AND it gives you the choice between the original mono and the 5.1. No need to do the work yourself. I got that sucker about a month ago and I've already watched it like 5 times. It's glorious.

Can you point me to the release thread of this Terminator regrade that you like so much?

I created my own version of The Terminator, based off the new remastered blu-ray, which I regraded to remove the teal tint, with the 5.1 and original mono audio included. It can be found on tehparadox. I'd like to see how this regrade compares to the one i've done.

I believe it's your regraded version on myspleen kk650. 

the 8BG version

Edit:  Terminator.(remastered-regraded).1080p-kk650ville.mkv

Yeah, I have the 8gb one. I didn't know either. I know there's a few edits of T1 floating around. Gets hard to keep track sometimes.

Flexicon9 said:

kk650's version on the spleen is quite good.  Excellent sound and beautifully restored video.  Just a note, there's a slight glitch at the 50+ minute mark when Sarah's at the police station speaking with Lt. Traxler.  It freezes there and you have to work around it.  Just FYI, and without question it's a damn good presentation.  The 2.1 HD audio is remarkable.

 ME TO!!!  Wow, I am so glad you said that. I thought it was just me. I thought it did that cuz I didn't DL the whole thing in one sitting.

Flexicon9 said:

kk650's version on the spleen is quite good.  Excellent sound and beautifully restored video.  Just a note, there's a slight glitch at the 50+ minute mark when Sarah's at the police station speaking with Lt. Traxler.  It freezes there and you have to work around it.  Just FYI, and without question it's a damn good presentation.  The 2.1 HD audio is remarkable.

Hmm, that's very strange. I've checked my 8gb release of The Terminator and both the 16gb releases and they don't have a freeze at the 50+ minute mark.

Also another thing I noticed is that the 8gb version doesn't have the mono track taken from the laserdisc included, only the DTS 5.1 audio taken from the blu-ray. I did include the mono track with the two 16gb releases though. Also none of these releases are edits, they include the film exactly as it was on the remastered blu-ray, no edits were made on my part.

If the 8gb release on MS includes the mono track and maybe edits, then it seems likely that somebody has taken the video stream from one of my releases, created this version themselves either by reencoding or remuxing the video stream and then uploaded it to MS. Perhaps that is what caused the freeze? Have you tried playing the file in mpc and vlc so see whether that fixes the problem? It could also be a codec issue of course which would require installing the latest codecs to fix.

This is the first i've heard about one of my releases being up on myspleen. I have no problem with that of course, its great to hear in fact! The more places these releases are shared the better, that's why I shared them in the first place, so as many people as possible could enjoy them. :)

TylerDurden389 said:

DarthCanoli said:

Does this track sync with the USA remastered Blu-ray release?

 Dude, just find the "re-graded re-scored" edit on the 'spleen. It's the new blu-ray with the proper color timing AND it gives you the choice between the original mono and the 5.1. No need to do the work yourself. I got that sucker about a month ago and I've already watched it like 5 times. It's glorious.

It's the first time one of my releases has been called glorious! I could get used to it haha.

Thank you very much for your kind words! It makes me very happy to hear you're enjoying this release so much, even with the freeze! :D

DoomBot said:

I believe it's your regraded version on myspleen kk650. 

the 8BG version

Edit:  Terminator.(remastered-regraded).1080p-kk650ville.mkv

Hmm, the ville after kk650 in the filename is most likely who remuxed/reencoded this to include the mono track and make any other changes. Isn't there any information provided of myspleen with the release about what changes might have been done/what audio tracks have been provided?

This is a regraded color timed version of THE TERMINATOR as created by user KingKong650 over on TehParadox.com.  Here is the quote from his upload page:

This version also includes The Terminator (1984) DTS-HD 2.1 mono mix created by LazySod :

So it's definitely your regraded video kk650

DoomBot said:

This is a regraded color timed version of THE TERMINATOR as created by user KingKong650 over on TehParadox.com.  Here is the quote from his upload page:

Quote:

I received numerous requests to regrade the newly remastered The Terminator blu-ray release that everybody was saying had a green tint, so I ordered it two weeks back. After I received the blu-ray a few days ago and checked it out, I could see that everybody was totally right, a blanket green tint is definately there across the whole film, reminisent of Blade Runner and Fellowship of the Ring, ruining the colour palatte of the film, so I went ahead and created a regraded version removing this blanket green tint and bringing the other colours back to life.

This version also includes The Terminator (1984) DTS-HD 2.1 mono mix created by LazySod :

Quote:

It will work with any remastered version of the new Blu-ray released worldwide [2012-2013 releases]. This WILL NOT WORK ON THE OLD MPEG2 TRANSFER from 2006. I've not included the video because I assume you already own the original disc and just want the original mono track.

This is taken from Perfect LPCM rip of the laserdisc's soundtrack, adjusted to the current remastered Blu-ray (including the MGM Lion at the beginning), re-sampled via Sony Vegas at 16bit, 48kHz and muxed with the lossless .1 lfe of the new 5.1 remix, finally re-encoded to DTS HD-MA 1536 kb/s for your listening and viewing pleasure.

This is not exactly what is on the laserdisc. This is better. The mono mix will never sound better (and it will never be available on Blu-ray anyway, so grab this while you can!).

So it's definitely your regraded video kk650

Hmm, it definately sounds like my 8gb version with the mono audio added to it. Did you guys try running it with mpc and vlc and see whether it made any difference to the freeze at the 50+ minute mark?

I'm curious, is there either of the 16gb versions up there on myspleen as well?

Only the 8gb version is there.

edit: Flexicon9 you beat me to it  :)

I don't use myspleen but what I will do is update the 8gb release on tehparadox so it includes the mono track taken from the laserdisc, make sure it works without glitches then reupload it there. Anybody that want to put it up on myspleen with then be able to download it and put it up there so you can all enjoy this unedited. Its too good a film to have any errors messing up the experience.

This really is a fantastic film, I used to much prefer terminator 2 but the first film has really grown on me over time.

Guys I apologize for the confusion, but after further thought I'm almost certain I got my copy from tehparadox, not myspleen. As for the freeze halfway through, I have only watched it on vlc.