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AntcuFaalb said:

waspattck said:

In 77, home video didn't exist yet

Yes, it did.

My coworker owned an RCA VBT200 VCR in 1977 (it was released in the US on August 23, 1977).

In 1978, his father purchased him a bootleg VHS of Star Wars: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/NEW-possibly-2nd-Generation-77-78-Bootleg/topic/14341/

This was the exception, not the rule. It didn't exist on any meaningful scale until the early 80s. I bought my first VCR in 1982 for $700! Star Wars had just been released legally on VHS and I eventually purchased it for over $100.

The PQ was awful and it was pan and scan, but it was cool. I was, however, the only person in my extended acquaintance who had a VCR in early '82.

The percentage of households in the US with a VCR prior to the early 80s was very small (single digit %s). Even by 85 according to Nielsen stats, that number had only reached about 15%.

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waspattck said:

The PQ was awful and it was pan and scan, but it was cool. I was, however, the only person in my extended acquaintance who had a VCR in early '82.

I own this VHS as well. Which version do you have? I have the Video Rental Library one.

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Zer0Squared, where does the newsletter get sent to? I should be subscribed already.

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In the very near future, a new thread will be started in the forums to discuss a Star Wars preservation with "A New Hope" opening crawl.

I know Harmy has said he doesn't mind pieces of Despecialized Edition being used, but just to make sure I want to ask: is permission granted to basically take the entire Despecialized and just change the crawl at the beginning? It would be much easier to just make this a spinoff project instead of starting from the ground up.

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 AntcuFaalb said:

waspattck said:

The PQ was awful and it was pan and scan, but it was cool. I was, however, the only person in my extended acquaintance who had a VCR in early '82.

I own this VHS as well. Which version do you have? I have the Video Rental Library one.

I had the same; somewhere along the line I sold it. I still clearly remember the hard plastic case though, and the cover art. Compared with Harmy's edition, that thing was downright awful. Who knew back then?

I suppose it still has some nostalgic value..............

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deepanddark20 said:

In the very near future, a new thread will be started in the forums to discuss a Star Wars preservation with "A New Hope" opening crawl.

I know Harmy has said he doesn't mind pieces of Despecialized Edition being used, but just to make sure I want to ask: is permission granted to basically take the entire Despecialized and just change the crawl at the beginning? It would be much easier to just make this a spinoff project instead of starting from the ground up.

Sure, no problem. But since it's basically going to be the DeEd, just with a different crawl, I'd like you to call it Star Wars Despecialized Edition 1981 or something to that effect. Also, I should finish a complete HD restoration of the 1981 crawl sometime next week (I want to use it in one of my docs) so I'll upload it when it's done. Here's a screenshot:

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:OOOOOOOOOOO

Finally!

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That is a work of beauty my friend ;)

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I am confused as to why people would want A New Hope in the crawl.  This project was to restore the film to as close as possible to what was seen in 1977.  "A New Hope" wasn't there and shouldn't be, IMO.  Adding it to Harmy's masterpiece seems counter-productive to the original goal.

 

 

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BroncoSport said:

I am confused as to why people would want A New Hope in the crawl.  This project was to restore the film to as close as possible to what was seen in 1977.

True, which is why Harmy isn't changing that aspect of the Despecialized Edition. However, different fans have different goals. While most of us here (including Harmy) focus our efforts on wanting to see the restoration of the original 1977 theatrical version of Star Wars, others wish to see the restoration of the film they grew up seeing - a film that included the "A New Hope" title but was free of the Special Edition changes.

More options is rarely a bad thing. Just go with what you like best. :)

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Harmy said:

deepanddark20 said:

In the very near future, a new thread will be started in the forums to discuss a Star Wars preservation with "A New Hope" opening crawl.

I know Harmy has said he doesn't mind pieces of Despecialized Edition being used, but just to make sure I want to ask: is permission granted to basically take the entire Despecialized and just change the crawl at the beginning? It would be much easier to just make this a spinoff project instead of starting from the ground up.

Sure, no problem. But since it's basically going to be the DeEd, just with a different crawl, I'd like you to call it Star Wars Despecialized Edition 1981 or something to that effect. Also, I should finish a complete HD restoration of the 1981 crawl sometime next week (I want to use it in one of my docs) so I'll upload it when it's done. Here's a screenshot:

Is this with the 1981 starfield?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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HanDuet said:

BroncoSport said:

I am confused as to why people would want A New Hope in the crawl.  This project was to restore the film to as close as possible to what was seen in 1977.

True, which is why Harmy isn't changing that aspect of the Despecialized Edition. However, different fans have different goals. While most of us here (including Harmy) focus our efforts on wanting to see the restoration of the original 1977 theatrical version of Star Wars, others wish to see the restoration of the film they grew up seeing - a film that included the "A New Hope" title but was free of the Special Edition changes.

More options is rarely a bad thing. Just go with what you like best. :)

Well said.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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AntcuFaalb said:

Harmy said:

Also, I should finish a complete HD restoration of the 1981 crawl sometime next week (I want to use it in one of my docs) so I'll upload it when it's done. Here's a screenshot:


Is this with the 1981 starfield?

Yes. I took the N1 video that was posted some days ago and extracted the crawl from it and pasted it over the proper '81 starfield restored from a combination of ESB, which uses the same strafield but shifted slightly to the left and NTSC '93 LD for the missing part. It's still a work in progress though.

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Looks great!

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HanDuet said:

BroncoSport said:

I am confused as to why people would want A New Hope in the crawl.  This project was to restore the film to as close as possible to what was seen in 1977.

True, which is why Harmy isn't changing that aspect of the Despecialized Edition. However, different fans have different goals. 

Indeed. The title crawls could be advertisements for Quaker Oats, for all it concerns me (I watch ANH and ESB frequently, but it's been years since I read the crawls). But some fans are orthodox about them, understandably.

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I love that 1981 crawl! Nice work Harmy.

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Damn, I still wish multi-angle/seamless-branching Blu-rays were easier to author.

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DVD Architect has something like that. It has a feature where you can make playlists for titles previously imported, but it plays it as one constant title (like if there were three 20 minute titles, it would show up as a single 1 hour title) instead of several played one after the other (though DVD mode on there can't).

So if you wanted to, you could just cut the crawls (as long as it has the same amount of audio/subtitle tracks) and make them seperate from the main film and make two seperate playlists for a '77 and '81 version.

Though as I mentioned before, the program can't simply just take pre-encoded material and use it, which I had to use another program for finalising, and it has a limit of 8 audio and 32 subtitle tracks, so it's not ideal if you want everything.

DVD-Lab Pro has a feature for branching too, though sadly they haven't made a Blu-ray equilivant yet.

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Thanks for your generosity, and that crawl looks beautiful!. You're the best person to work on it, IMO. It's not even necessarily that I think the "New Hope" crawl is better, I just want it available as an alternative since I grew up with it. To be honest, the '77 crawl has been growing on me a lot the more I watch DeEd 2.5. I'll stop cluttering this thread with '81 crawl discussion. Thank you once again.

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Thanks for saving me a job Harmy :p

BroncoSport said:

I am confused as to why people would want A New Hope in the crawl. This project was to restore the film to as close as possible to what was seen in 1977. "A New Hope" wasn't there and shouldn't be, IMO. Adding it to Harmy's masterpiece seems counter-productive to the original goal.

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Harmy said:

AntcuFaalb said:

Harmy said:

Also, I should finish a complete HD restoration of the 1981 crawl sometime next week (I want to use it in one of my docs) so I'll upload it when it's done. Here's a screenshot:


Is this with the 1981 starfield?

Yes. I took the N1 video that was posted some days ago and extracted the crawl from it and pasted it over the proper '81 starfield restored from a combination of ESB, which uses the same strafield but shifted slightly to the left and NTSC '93 LD for the missing part. It's still a work in progress though.

Looking good.  Will you be offering this with the flyover, so right up to the first cut / shot change for people to swap out themselves?

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That's the catch - N1's video was of the crawl only and I really don't want to do the flyover again, so if someone wants to faithfully recreate the '81 version, they'd still have to deal with that.