Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 434

Harmy said:

People with that amount of over-scan should really throw their TVs away.

My Sony WEGA KV-30HS420 CRT 1080i HDTV has a good amount of overscan, but it beats the pants off of every other HDTV I've compared it to, including the recent line of LED HDTVs.

I haven't seen as amazing color reproduction on any set I've ever come across. It's great for Laserdiscs, DVDs, and Blu-rays.

I don't plan on throwing it out any time soon. ;-)

Laserschwert said:

CatBus said:

The safe areas are ill-defined these days

Pretty much every video, DVD, compositing and 3D software I've worked with during the last 15 or so years used the 5%/10% guides, so I'm pretty sure that's the most common ratio for them.

Agreed, but authoring software always trends conservative (nothing wrong with that). The percentage of sets out there requiring such extraordinary treatment is now very, very low and you already see game designers (which tend to be more cutting edge) pushing closer to the edge.

That said, until the last first-gen CRT HDTVs fail (and they were built like tanks, so they'll last decades still), I'd use your chart.

EDIT: And I'd especially keep using large overscan values for the left/right borders, because those are relevant to SDTV's, of which there are still millions.  The top/bottom ones are only relevant for 16x9 sets.

And like AntcuFaalb, I love me some CRT image. I personally don't think the color's that great, and the clarity obviously isn't there either, and then there's the overscan. But the motion... the motion on a CRT is puts even plasma to shame, even in spite of telecine judder. And what other display tech can you buy that will easily last thirty years?

Can we pass a hat around?  I'd kick in $25.

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SpilkaBilka said:

Can we pass a hat around?  I'd kick in $25.

and any similar suggestion...

johnlocke2342 said:

The problem is it'd be illegal, as Harmy's work is considered a fan edit, and it's illegal to sell a fan edit as it's made with copyrighted material. Hence, my "It'd be legal".

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Seriously illegal and would be a great way to get the forum shut down.

Harmy said:

I don't want your blood money! :-P

b0bafett said:

Well Harmy, if you get a 30 day key - that means you have 30 days to finish Empire & Jedi 2.0!!!   ;-)

That's also the first thing that came to my mind!

Luckily my TV has no overscanning whatsoever, which made setting up my computers second monitor via HDMI a whole lot more easy. Mine is a Sony Bravia 40CX520 40" Full HD LCD.

Well, my parents' Samsung HDTV does have some overscan when in default 16:9 mode. You have to switch to "fit-the-screen" mode to get rid of it.

I use my 27" computer monitor as my TV, even with my BD Player and am more than happy with it - it is very accurate and there's no bullshit going on - I'd take watching a film on that monitor over my parents' 32" HDTV any day of the week, because with all the doodles that the TV has (and all TVs seem to have them) it's practically impossible to get a picture as pure as with the monitor, which doesn't do any post processing to the signal.

yoda-sama said:

Actually, we may as well try to push past the safe boundaries with the DeEd, it might make people bother to try setting up their TV's better.

Sounds good! Would you mind telling me how to turn off my Sony WEGA KV-30HS420's overscan? ;-)

*Without screwing-up the geometry, that is.

yoda-sama said:

AntcuFaalb said:

yoda-sama said:

Actually, we may as well try to push past the safe boundaries with the DeEd, it might make people bother to try setting up their TV's better.

Sounds good! Would you mind telling me how to turn off my Sony WEGA KV-30HS420's overscan? ;-)

*Without screwing-up the geometry, that is.

Easy!  Though it will involve buying a modern TV...

There are bound to be a few casualties on the path to saving the world from crappy TV settings...

Sounds good! Can you help me out? Here are my requirements:

1. <=$100 used (this is how much I paid for my KV-30HS420)

2. >=700 lines of motion resolution on interlaced sources

3. Deep color (10 and 12-bit) support on HDMI with no banding issues

4. An excellent 3D comb filter

In comparison, I own a wonderfully-crappy LG 37LD450 1080p LCD HDTV that can barely squeeze 300 lines of motion resolution from a 1080i source during fast-moving shots. (Yes, this is with DNR turned off!)

It also suffers from banding issues galore.

yoda-sama said:

I'll cede the point if your TV also lets you use the Nintendo Zapper to play Duck Hunt.

I can play Duck Hunt on it just fine using a Nintendo Zapper and my A/V Famicom Toploader.

yoda-sama said:

Then it is indeed a god among budget TV's.  Nice taste by the way on choice of Nintendo, I recently got an A/V Famicom Toploader, as well.  (My Yobo 72pin to 60pin adapter isn't the greatest, but what can you do?)

Thanks!

The A/V Famicom Toploader is definitely the way-to-go (if you don't mind using an adapter for NoA NES titles). The blinking-red-light-of-death is not something I want to deal with anymore and the RF-only output of the NoA NES Toploader is a no-go as well.

My 72->60 pin adapter is really crazy-looking. It looks like some guy hacked it together in his garage, but it works like a dream.

In fact, it looks exactly like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/271300605863

My apologies to Harmy for derailing this thread again.

We love you, Harmy!