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Info Wanted: color correction R2D2 twilight scene ANH

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Hello,

I’m working on a Despecialized version of ANH, using the BD as the main video source, the ’06 bonus dvd to fill in for the S.E. additions that I’m editing out, and the ’89/’92/’93 Technidisc laserdisc (‘85 mix) for the audio track; but will edit out 3PO’s Tractor Beam line using the Faces LD audio.

I’m having a hard time with the (twilight) R2D2 scene on Tatooine. So far I’ve been able to use the ‘06 dvd to edit out all of the S.E. stuff, but even this (‘93 THX) version has color changes to this scene. I’m using Vegas Pro 12 and tried tweaking the color on both the BD and the ‘06 dvd, but my goal is to make the edit faithful to the ‘77 stereo two-track version, no matter how bad the quality is on certain scenes, but obviously I want to have the best picture quality possible. So far I’m using the ’89 LD for this scene(s) but the picture quality is less than inspiring. I know people have color corrected the whole movie(s) due to the crushed blacks, but what have you guys done for this perticular problem/scene?

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Thank you for the old link. I did do a search before I posted this question.

Ok, so it's obvious the (USA) pre '93 LD's have the canyon scene too bright. So you're saying I can color correct the BD to match the '06 dvd, because that will be closer in exposure than the '89 LD that I'm using for the soundtrack? Or just use the '06 dvd for that scene and be done with it.

Thank you, much appreciated!

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I have a small folder of 70mm stills collected from the internet if you (or any one else) are working on a scene and want to cross reference something with these feel free to request, keeping in mind these might help or confuse things further (!) http://i.imgur.com/GStol8c.jpg http://i.imgur.com/EsBqgEZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hR1LMjb.jpg
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Sweet! Are these from 1997?

 

I think I'm just going to use the '06 bonus dvd as the source. I tried color matching the BD w/the 06 and it turned out OK, but not great. By using the THX version I think I'm closer to being true to the source, with the help from you guys.

 

Jason

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clashradio said:Sweet! Are these from 1997?    I think the release date for these collector film cells was 1995. So as far as I can tell right before they started making the special edition Lucasfilm took a perfectly serviceable 70mm print(s?) of the original version and cut it to pieces (!). Anyway I went ahead and uploaded the ones I collected before I got your reply so you might want to have them anyway just out of interest.  http://www.filefactory.com/file/7hsgj6ti7ltt/70mm_rar A better set is at http://www.jedi1.net/ 
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Why are you removing the tractor beam line? It is from the 1977 mono track which at the time was considered the definitive sound for the film (as in the soundtrack that Ben Burt spent the most time on and the one it won the Oscar for). While it was missing in the stereo soundtrack up into the 90's, it is not a later revision but one of the many attempts to make the stereo/surround soundtrack match the mono soundtrack. They still have never gotten Beru's voice correct. My ideal would be a full 5.1 sountrack the perfectly matches the mono soundtrack (minus the SE additions, the BD comes the closest - again, except for Beru). Thanks to some of the versions of Star Wars created by members of this group, my favorite way to watch it is the GOUT with the mono soundtrack - the way 90% of us who saw it in '77 experienced it.

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I'm removing the Tractor Beam line because it wasn't in the '77 stereo mix. I know it was in the mono, and maybe the 70mm? Of the three audio mixes, only the stereo has been released so I decided to make my Despecialized version using that source. I do have multiple versions on laserdisc, and to me, the 1989 Widescreen ('85 mix) sounds the best, but they added the Tractor Beam line. If you listen with headphones at that part, you can really here the difference in 3PO's tone. I did toss and turn on using the '86 Japanese LD, which is the original stereo '77 mix, and digital audio...