Regarding menus, this is how the pop-up menu on our German Blu-ray is going to look like (that is the menu that is shown during the film, so the movie keeps playing underneath):
I don't know what kind of support MultiAVCHD has for stuff like this (this one's made in Encore).
MultiAVCHD does have support for a pop-up menus, though you have no control or preview (from what I've seen) on how it looks.
For mine, I intended on creating the shell within DVD Architect using placeholders and replacing them with the real sources using BDFix.
Also because I wanted to add in the trailers/tv spots from the 2004 Bonus DVD and the Deleted/Extended scenes & Featurettes from the Complete Saga BD set.
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I just wanted something so when I pop it in, it doesn't automatically start. That's annoying. I have every intention of downloading Harmy's version, this cheap menu will do in the meantime!
Harmy said:
analog said:
On the "versions" section - will this touch on the changes across all the home releases, such as some of the major changes on all of them? I think it'd be cool to have a quick rundown of some of the more "famous" and arguably rather stupid additions/changes.
From a relatively untouched VHS / Laserdisc era, to 97SE, to DVD, to BD, that'd be cool to see a quick breakdown.
I actually meant versions of the DeEd (v1.0, v2.0, v2.1, v2.5). What you talk about will be covered in the "changes" video.
One thing that'd be great to show on that would be a picture of the 2006 DVDs - something like opening it up, showing the 2nd disc thrown in there, then played on a widescreen to illustrate how sad it is that it's the only official release of the originals, in original form. I mean, yes, I'm glad to own them, but it's sad that they're only really barely worth watching on a CRT, which you can't even really buy anywhere anymore.
That's a great idea. Actually, my BD player doesn't even allow for the GOUT to be zoomed in, when I press the full screen button, it simply stretches it out and it doesn't zoom it, so the only way to watch it on my BD player is with black bars on all sides.
Ah, that makes sense! Yes, there are quite a few DeEd versions! And yes, I admit it, I downloaded all of them ;)
As for the GOUT DVDs, yeah, zooming them sucks no matter which way it is. I just think it'd be a good thing to at least mention, or show it somehow. Everyone was excited back when they were announced and thought they'd be great, only to realize that it wasn't even anamorphic. I think that release motivated a lot of folks, and probably at least some of what you eventually did here.
I know that, personally, I thought of doing exactly what DarkJedi did with the "v3" DVD set - at least cropping it to proper anamorphic, in order to make it look nicer on a widescreen.
I actually set out to start playing with my copies, and thought "I wonder if someone else already did this - resized/upscaled it properly for widescreen" - and sure enough, discovered that someone was way ahead of me! I was happy with the v3 effort, and quite excited to have it, until I ran across this project, somewhere around when I'd heard about the blu ray set coming out (and was again sad that they couldn't be bothered to even include an anamorphic upscaled version, even if it wasn't perfect..).
When I learned that the blu ray set had been changed *again* I was also even more disappointed. All the changes aside, still no other copy of the real original films. "This is madness," I thought, so I remembered this site, and was overwhelmed to find this project and all the amazing things you'd done.
As for menus, yeah, I am fine with an MKV for now, but will wait for the project / project files to be complete before I burn a thing..
I think separating will also make it much easier to publish, esp. now that I see how the main disc will only really need a menu to select audio. Very cool stuff!!!
djchaseb said:
I just wanted something so when I pop it in, it doesn't automatically start. That's annoying.
That's what she said.
I came here originally because Darth Marsden at the Telltale Games forums (now at Double Fine; we all moved forums after TTG screwed theirs up) brought up Adywan's ANH:R in the middle of a communal rant on George Lucas.
By far my biggest issue with the SEs is Jedi Rocks, and ROTJ:DE fixes that. (Jedi Rocks > ROTJ Vader "No!" > Hayden ghost > CGI Jabba > Greedo shoots > CGI wampa).
I didn't care much for SW:DE 1.0 because the blockade runner had yellow walls and the dewback next to the cantina was purple, so I stuck with ANH:R for the first film instead. But since 2.1 came out, I watch the DEED. I think I only watch ANH:R sometimes because I already have it, since some of the changes sort of bother me (like making the Death Star explosion feel less epic than the Alderaan explosion.)
I mean, I /would/ have said that I'm not a stickler for the originals, but this is so unbelievably good that I take it back.
I only take issue with DJ's versions because they lack fine detail, comparatively.
chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.
Cool. Indeed the DJ versions weren't perfect, I was just happy to have the DVDs at the time in proper anamorphic widescreen format. IIRC, there was a small amount of processing done to clean up jaggies etc., but it was otherwise relatively untouched GOUT as far as coloring or other major work.
...can't wait for the full set to be in 2.x territory... Also interested in the "project blu" stuff that DJ was doing. Need to hop over to that thread and see what the word is there... Would like to have both for posterity. I like what they've been able to accomplish, considering the source. I also consider it to be kind of "the best" form of GOUT possible, being that the actual original is not so great in its native form.
I'm starting to gain an appreciation for how tough this BR menu authoring can be.......MultiAVCHD seems to shut off full-menu capability when it enters BR Mode. Adobe Encore seems to have disappeared from the planet, since Adobe no longer supports it. Finding older versions is no small task.
Using the Pop-Up menu feature in MultiAVCHD seems risky, since there is no preview feature there.
There don't seem to be a lot of other options unless one is willing to break the bank.
Seems like I'm going to burn the basic BR structure with all the audio options and some subtitles and wait for the pros to handle the menus. At least the GOUT chapter markers will port over and it will be much smoother skipping around the film. I'm sure time search will work as well.
Laserschwert said:
Harmy said:
analog said:
One thing that'd be great to show on that would be a picture of the 2006 DVDs - something like opening it up, showing the 2nd disc thrown in there, then played on a widescreen to illustrate how sad it is that it's the only official release of the originals, in original form. I mean, yes, I'm glad to own them, but it's sad that they're only really barely worth watching on a CRT, which you can't even really buy anywhere anymore.That's a great idea. Actually, my BD player doesn't even allow for the GOUT to be zoomed in, when I press the full screen button, it simply stretches it out and it doesn't zoom it, so the only way to watch it on my BD player is with black bars on all sides.
In place of "crappy", I would probably use degraded. In place of "a highly manipulated" I might use "an offensively decorated" (referring to the cheesy CG junk). That might sound more professional--and more insulting to the SE.
Sorry, just thought I'd throw my two bits in.
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waspattck said:
I'm starting to gain an appreciation for how tough this BR menu authoring can be.......MultiAVCHD seems to shut off full-menu capability when it enters BR Mode.
IIRC, when importing the source, you can specify a trim to limit the amount of the file used. This means one can render a test version on a shorter part of the material so it doesn't take too long and you can revise the menus etc quickly. When happy, remove the trim so that the full input file is used.
ClownBD (Windows only) contains all the software needed to create a Bluray structure from an mkv, including TSmuxer.
TV's Frink said:
djchaseb said:
I don't know, there's too many options for me.
Mark does look confused, seems he's gotten to the point that he's given up and won't even look at the options anymore...
waspattck said:
Adobe Encore seems to have disappeared from the planet, since Adobe no longer supports it. Finding older versions is no small task.
Encore CS6 can be dowloaded as part of Premiere CS6 when you're using Adobe Creative Cloud, so at least it's still available. No idea why they didn't update it to a CC version as well...
Laserschwert said:
waspattck said:
Adobe Encore seems to have disappeared from the planet, since Adobe no longer supports it. Finding older versions is no small task.
Encore CS6 can be dowloaded as part of Premiere CS6 when you're using Adobe Creative Cloud, so at least it's still available. No idea why they didn't update it to a CC version as well...
Premiere CS6 doesn't seem to be a download option on the CC menu anymore. I downloaded the trial version of Premiere Pro CC and Encore was nowhere to be found. Seems like they want to forget it ever existed.
Regardless, I have the BR structure ready to burn through TSMuxer with the audio and sub options I want, so the lack of a menu is no big problem in the short run. When the extras, etc. are all available, I'll re-download the whole package with menus.
Darth Nyriox said:
In place of "crappy", I would probably use degraded. In place of "a highly manipulated" I might use "an offensively decorated" (referring to the cheesy CG junk). That might sound more professional--and more insulting to the SE.
Sorry, just thought I'd throw my two bits in.
But in that case you're just including another unprofessional-sounding remark. "Highly manipulated" is more objective and more fitting of a professionally done documentary.
Re. Encore: the CS6 version can still be installed via CC but you need to use a 'special process' (read: workaround).
http://helpx.adobe.com/encore/kb/encore-cs6-installed-cc.html
Jonno said:
Re. Encore: the CS6 version can still be installed via CC but you need to use a 'special process' (read: workaround).
http://helpx.adobe.com/encore/kb/encore-cs6-installed-cc.html
Tried this, but the "download Premiere CS6" option on the Premiere page has been removed. I think the documentation is out-of-date.
Arcsoft DTS decoder doesn't like the Mono DTS-HD MA Track, I can't playback it and neither decode it with eac3to, maybe someone should upload the Uncompressed PCM (WAV) file.
waspattck said:
Jonno said:
Re. Encore: the CS6 version can still be installed via CC but you need to use a 'special process' (read: workaround).
http://helpx.adobe.com/encore/kb/encore-cs6-installed-cc.html
Tried this, but the "download Premiere CS6" option on the Premiere page has been removed. I think the documentation is out-of-date.
Nope, just did it myself and it's right there. Did you select the CS6 version from the dropdown?
Okay guys, I need some help here.
I've succesfully stripped the MKV file, so it only contains the necessary audio tracks. What's the easiest way to create an AVCHD, ready to be burned to a DVD-DL? Including subtitles.
I've run the process in BDtoAVCHD, but I cannot add subtitles in that program. I have no idead to get further from here. Help would be appreciated.
Harmy, is there going to be an official AVCHD from you?
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I promised earlier to report back with some audio findings, so here they are:
The DTS-MA 1.0 mono mix track is fine. A player, such as a Blu-ray player or receiver, that can decode DTS-MA can play it back just fine. A player, such as VLC or MPC, which cannot decode DTS-MA, can play back the lossy DTS core fine. It's only software with a buggy DTS-MA decoder implementation (ArcSoft, others?) that chokes--probably because they don't handle mono encoding correctly (it's rare and may not be in their test suite).
I've confirmed the Japanese track appears to be the home video dub, not the theatrical dub. I don't think this is a big problem because I understand the home video dub to be the more well-regarded dub. Just a labeling issue.
Good to know, I'll make sure to change the Jpn dub label for the BD :-)
chyron8472 said:
I think I only watch ANH:R sometimes because I already have it, since some of the changes sort of bother me (like making the Death Star explosion feel less epic than the Alderaan explosion.)
The Alderaan explosion always been more epic than the Death Stars, hasn't it? Is there a version of Star Wars where that isn't the case?
In '77, Alderaans huge fireball with chunks flying out dwarfed the Death Stars little 'Pop!' and glitter show. In all versions of the SE, the same ring has been added to both explosions, so Alderaan still has the better bang. I just watched both go boom in Revisited and I'd say the new Death Star explosion at least equals Alderaans.
I don't mean to go off topic, just found this interesting.
CatBus said:
I promised earlier to report back with some audio findings, so here they are:
The DTS-MA 1.0 mono mix track is fine. A player, such as a Blu-ray player or receiver, that can decode DTS-MA can play it back just fine. A player, such as VLC or MPC, which cannot decode DTS-MA, can play back the lossy DTS core fine. It's only software with a buggy DTS-MA decoder implementation (ArcSoft, others?) that chokes--probably because they don't handle mono encoding correctly (it's rare and may not be in their test suite).
I've confirmed the Japanese track appears to be the home video dub, not the theatrical dub. I don't think this is a big problem because I understand the home video dub to be the more well-regarded dub. Just a labeling issue.
So it's not possible to get a download link for the original PCM file of the DTS-HD MA mono track? You could even compress it easily to FLAC before uploading...
MisterXDTV said:
So it's not possible to get a download link for the original PCM file of the DTS-HD MA mono track?
Harmy posted a link a while back to a FLAC version of the mono mix. However, it's not quite the same as the source for this particular DTS-MA track, as h_h did do some tweaks. h_h said he'll post sources for his tracks at some future date, but he's pretty busy right now and I have no idea when that might be. So we either have to wait, settle for a slightly different track, or use something else to play it back.
