DoomBot said:
Anyone else who would like the Halloween Criterion audio from dark_jedi, please pm me.
The file is w64 wav file zipped with 7z but you should be able to open it with winrar.
Does it sync with the original (2007) BD also?
It might be slightly off but so little you may not even notice. I'll check tomorrow how much but it's extremely small. So give it a shot and remux with tsMuxeR about 9 or 10% then abort and watch the video of it.
I had trouble muxing with tsmuxer. First time ever really. After I was done, it had some frames of video that just froze and then skipped...audio never missed a beat. I used makemkv to rip as usual. I muxed to a Blu-ray file structure.
I've done another rip using DVDFab and I'm about to give that a shot shortly.
Strange, everything played just fine on VLC...just my Oppo BDP-93 playing off of USB that gave me trouble.
“Alright twinkle-toes, what’s your exit strategy?”
Oh i never make blu-ray structures only m2ts files and it never fails.
Re-did it with DVD fab...no problems.
I only do file structure because I have to split the files, as I used a FAT32 drive. I'd use NTFS but as a Mac user, that introduces a lot of pains in the ass.
I really wish the Oppo would read Mac journaled disc formatting, or that OS X would have native NTFS support. I'd still not go back to Windows if you paid me though. :)
As for the audio, I'll have to do a better test, but I had to crank my fader more than when using the LaserDisc. Was anything changed?
“Alright twinkle-toes, what’s your exit strategy?”
@ DB ..... Thanks for the audio. I got it quickly and smoothly. I'm going to mux it with my 99 DVD for now.
Cheers!!!!
Thanks to DJ and DB once again... their Criterion mono audio file synced perfectly to the 2007 BD as well as the 35th Anniversary BD. It also synced to my THX DVD. Thanks guys, it's greatly appreciated as usual.
Were they adjustment to the Criterion audio? Cause I can see it shifting sightly out of sync by one or two frames in some moments, and being perfectly synced the next.
Are you in a PAL region? I'm in NTSC land. Would a frame rate issue be a possibility?
I have seen plenty of fan synced sountracks that to my eyes and ears, went out of sync. Some people are just more sensitive to this and many not at all. Anything I do has to be accurate to the frame.
For HARD BOILED, I actually made a Cantonese soundtrack that was more in sync with the video vs. the original audio.
I've yet to test the provided Halloween audio.
Stamper said:
Were they adjustment to the Criterion audio? Cause I can see it shifting sightly out of sync by one or two frames in some moments, and being perfectly synced the next.
Maybe it's just the ADR goes slightly off, but you never noticed before because you weren't looking for it?
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Took a better listen today. Great work. The LaserDisc natively is about a few dB louder but with adjustments in volume, they sound virtually identical. Both my LD and BR players output bit streams directly. I wonder if some detail is lost when converting from 44.1 to 48.
Oh well. It's better than the 5.1, 7.1, and lossy mono tracks.
My yearly screening is now ready! Thanks DJ and DB!
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Thanks for the LD audio.
After a quick check-through I have to agree that it isn't perfectly in sync with the 35th Anniversary BD in places. At the end when Loomis shoots Michael the shot sounds are definitely coming in before the muzzle flashes. Also when Loomis gives his "the devil's eyes" speech, the lip sync is noticeably off.
Still great to have the original audio preserved in this way though. :)
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I have to disagree, the speech starting at 38:40 is in sync and i don't hear the guns shots before the muzzle flashes 1:26:46. Not sure how your playing the file or what you might have done but i'm just not seeing those as being off.
I've yet to sync up but am hoping to do so this weekend.
here is a tip in order to make 100% sure it's syncs, since the mono on the 35th anniversary edition is a 5.1 mixdown (why even bother to include a mono mix, if it isn't the real deal?)
1. if possible retain the video from the laserdisc. properly inverse telecine it
2. add pcm audio from the ld to the ld video - sync it with the captured lossy audio, unless you captured the pcm right away with the pcm track
3. add ld audio & video on top of the to be synced movie
4: now sync using the actual frames and not waveforms
why is the method better? because you an actual a/v feedback if your work is sync or not.
alternatively if you don't have the ld video you can sync the audio to the 1999 dvd, which contains the actual mono track. from there you move on to the bd.
So is the Criterion PCM I provided in sync or not? if not I really need to know so I can either do it myself or see if anyone else wants to do it, also need to make this a regular PCM file there was no need for this to be a w64 file at all.
Thanks
ps. I would normally have just done this myself to begin with but we have so many projects going and a lot real close to being done that I just do not have time right now.
dark_jedi said:
So is the Criterion PCM I provided in sync or not? if not I really need to know so I can either do it myself or see if anyone else wants to do it, also need to make this a regular PCM file there was no need for this to be a w64 file at all.
Thanks
ps. I would normally have just done this myself to begin with but we have so many projects going and a lot real close to being done that I just do not have time right now.
Sooooooo ..... you're thanking DoomBot for doing such good work on the sync and providing the finished file for all of those who have gotten it and not complained about the w64 file format? Both of you helped folks out and you want to bite the hand .... at least your consistent.
I mean no disrespect DJ but your "my way or the highway" way of treating others is not something I cannot subscribe to. It's unproductive and arrogant in a place where people kindly help each other to help everyone.
This is why I no longer talk to you.
My apologies for interrupting this informative thread.
Jetrell Fo said:
dark_jedi said:
So is the Criterion PCM I provided in sync or not? if not I really need to know so I can either do it myself or see if anyone else wants to do it, also need to make this a regular PCM file there was no need for this to be a w64 file at all.
Thanks
ps. I would normally have just done this myself to begin with but we have so many projects going and a lot real close to being done that I just do not have time right now.
Sooooooo ..... you're thanking DoomBot for doing such good work on the sync and providing the finished file for all of those who have gotten it and not complained about the w64 file format? Both of you helped folks out and you want to bite the hand .... at least your consistent.
This is why I no longer talk to you.
You are such a child Shawn it is not even funny, go seek your glory and resume not speaking to me lol, I actually was quite enjoying it, thanks.
Is W64 playable on most players (hardware and software)?
NeonBible said:
Is W64 playable on most players (hardware and software)?
Wave64 is a proprietary format developed by Sonic Foundry Inc. In terms of audio quality, Wave64 files are identical to standard wave files, but there is one major difference:
In the file headers, Wave64 files use 64-bit values for addressing where wave files use 32-bit values. The consequence of this is that wave64 files can be considerably larger than standard wave files. Wave64 is therefore a good file format choice for really long recordings (file sizes over 2GB), e.g. live surround recordings.
Wave64 files have the same options as regular wave files and have the extension ".w64".
If the option "Show Broadcast Options for WAV64 Export" is activated in the Preferences (Record-Broadcast Wave page) a dialog will appear when you click Save to export the file.
This allows you to enter information (date and time, description strings etc.) to be embedded in the file. Note that you can enter default text strings for author, description and reference on the same Preferences page - these will automatically appear in the Broadcast Options dialog when it appears.
A Multichannel Interleave as a WAV64 file is a great way to go. Plus it keeps everything all in one place for storage. When it comes to doing something with a WAV64 Interleave, when Nuendo is used they can split the channels on importing the file so they only work on one channel at a time.
Hope this helps some.
Once the w64 is muxed it makes no difference, It's PCM just like a wav file no difference. Not sure why DJ has such a problem with this file format, won't sound any different.
DoomBot said:
Once the w64 is muxed it makes no difference, It's PCM just like a wav file no difference. Not sure why DJ has such a problem with this file format, won't sound any different.
Jesus we already discussed this via PM, it is not so much the w64 which like I said to you in PM is totally not needed and it will not play on a PC by itself like a normal wav file will, you need software to play it, but what I do need to know is if this file is in sync or not, right now from reading through this it seems to be a 50-50 crap shoot, but now I am going to wash my hands of it, I talked to someone by PM and his friend has already started working on it just in case.
Jeez I can't even ask for help lol, I guess we should just stop sharing and doing some for ourselves for a while, yea right we like to share, that is what we do.
Thanks Everyone
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Needed or not it works and sounds the same. Who is going to play the file by it self anyways? Besides if one wanted to for some odd reason play the file by it self, there's free software out there for the taking.
As far as the file being in sync, there was 2 people and i already checked those spots that Turisu mentioned , and i don't see a problem. Stamper never said where parts were out of sync so i can't check those.
Sorry i ever volunteered to work on this file, i was just trying to be nice and help out.