HotRod said:
sonofjones said:
okay tv's frink you're starting to go too far on all this, especially on a discussion that's basically over anyway. Can't you find anything better to discuss on this thread than bashing someone else?
It will be over when it's done
...No Shit!
I was listening to the radio drama which you can hear on this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UPmUGkjpzI
This scene in the drama does not feature in the film of "Renegade Squadron" protecting Rebel transports.
But I really like the name "Renegade squadron" and the tags say "Renegade one"
So I had an idea to label the escaping transport and fighters as "Renegade one" before the lady in the command center says "stand by ion control" label the escape attempt via comms back to the command center something like
"Renegade one on approach"
"stand By ion control"
It's a reference to something that never was but I like the sound of "Renegade one" and seems to sum up the escape plan in a cool way using a calsign which was intended at some point in a script but here done via crackling radio sound back to the command center.
But I don't have any strong feelings about this idea only that I think it could perhaps sound good and reference cut material in the process.
HotRod said:
sonofjones said:
okay tv's frink you're starting to go too far on all this, especially on a discussion that's basically over anyway. Can't you find anything better to discuss on this thread than bashing someone else?
It will be over when it's done
The only reason it's NOT done is because he insisted on continuing it just so he could bash the guy some more. and the only reason it's STILL not done is because now you're insisting on continuing it despite the fact this thread has already moved on to another topic.
rockin said:
Stop making more work Ronster!
:-(
Don't worry, it's all audio work which is the last thing Adywan has to do before finalization. So shouldn't be a problem if Ady wants to take any of the suggestions into consideration.
sonofjones said:
HotRod said:
sonofjones said:
okay tv's frink you're starting to go too far on all this, especially on a discussion that's basically over anyway. Can't you find anything better to discuss on this thread than bashing someone else?
It will be over when it's done
The only reason it's NOT done is because he insisted on continuing it just so he could bash the guy some more. and the only reason it's STILL not done is because now you're insisting on continuing it despite the fact this thread has already moved on to another topic.
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Frink does bring up a good point. There are a lot of suggestions made in Adywan threads that would be better served in other threads or even threads of their own. It's so dense, every page has so many things going on.
Don't let things get lost/clutter in here.
Star Wars Revisited Wordpress
Star Wars Visual Comparisons WordPress
**Pokes head out of hiding hole, sees that flood of notification emails was over a squabble between multiple forum members.**
Ady, just keep doing what you are doing.
To those with their own ideas for edits, they are appreciated and entertaining. However, I doubt Ady can comment on or vet them all. There are a multitude of people on these forums who DO have the time though, and if you are serious about your project, start a new thread. You will find tons of encouragement and constructive criticism to be had there.
To those egging others on, yup, its fun and entertaining for a while but, gets old quick.
To TV's Frink: Dude, you are only on 2.0!? Man, you need to upgrade, your cynicism module isn't on par with the latest model.
**retreats back into hidey hole**
Well this response might be a little late, meant to get it in sooner but had computer issues, but here's my thoughts on these.
Ronster said:
1. Make it so storm troopers are no longer mute. There is only one line of Storm trooper dialogue in ESB give them there cool sounding voices back and make it more like ANH and ROTJ
It all depends on what is said and where it's said. I can't think of a scene with them where I feel they'd need to say or respond with something, but maybe. It would need to feel seamless, or not at all.
2. When Vader and Veers have a hologram conversation. Add the sound of the Hologram shutting off sound after the conversation ends before "prepare to target the main generator".
First of all, you're combining two separate occasions when we're viewing inside here. We don't need an audible sound effect of it turning off though, because this scene is already over at the time when it would have logically turned off.
3. Add a few Blast hit sounds while Han and Chewie try to fix the hyperdrive during the asteroid chase It would also clarify the difference in sound when they get hit by an Asteroid and when Han says "That was'nt a Laser blast" while keeping continuity that they are still being chased
Maybe.
4. Enhance Dagobah's ambient forest / swamp sound effects there is quite a few quiet moments where it could sound more "Alive" yet only subtle non intrusive and not interfering with dialogue additions.
Wouldn't hurt in some scenes, but like you said they'd need to be subtle. On this matter, I think it'd be fine to also see some tiny beetle-sized insects inserted subtly on the ground/logs or flying in some shots.
5. Vaders Light sabre striking the floor when he swings and misses Luke in carbon freezing chamber
There's already a sound. The question is if it needs to be changed or if it stays the same. I'm fine either way if Ady wants to edit this sound or not. For sure though, seeing some sparks, or at least a little flash, would be good.
6. Special Edition Slave 1 Engine sound effect rather than Theatrical (not on list)
In the theatrical during the garbage scene, it was only a single long-view shot of Slave 1 and all we heard from it was its engine firing up and continuing as it was heading out of the garbage. Since Ady is keeping the SE footage (modified), yes it would be great for it to keep the SE engine sound. As for when Slave 1 leaves Cloud City, to my knowledge that sound was never changed (which essentially sounds like the PT/SE engine anyway) and so I'd like that kept as is.
7. In cloud city when Lobot walks up the stairs past Lando and co his head band flashes but there is no activate sound. Before the trap is sprung this sound could be heard again when chewie looks over his shoulder to convey lobot double backed to spring the trap.
No. It would be too distracting because at this part we should be focused on what Lando is saying and we shouldn't have any suspicion of anything awry yet (at least not before Chewie looks over his shoulder, who more likely only senses something is wrong. By the time our brain is processing a suspicion, it's already too late and the doors are opening with Vader right there).
8.Add distant sound of tie fighters while luke is hanging under cloud city but not on any scenes with dialogue only when he is looking around.
No. Even for distant sounds, they wouldn't be close enough where he's at, if they were at Cloud City yet. It would also distract from the scene if they were.
9. The device leia is trying to turn and lock into place before Han snogs her seems to have the catch the other side of the set wall while the boom mic was in the area with the actors. The noise of the equipment sounds hollow when trying to be locked in suggest to make a more fuller sounding metal hit sound on the attempts to lock it in. And a click when it does lock in to place and Leia hurts her finger.
Not a bad idea, even if I never thought it sounded off.
10. Remove Wampa groan sounds so that Luke wakes up naturally upside down. Sasquatch and yeti are always shown to be quiet creatures and the Wampa is based off of these mysterious probably hoax animals yet the characteristics match when he attacks Luke on the taun taun but once we are in the cave the Wampa cannot stop constantly yelling and wailing for no apparent reason. They are meant to be stealthy in nature but I think the Wampa yelling in pain when hit by a light sabre is a worthy groan sound here and perhaps when he emerges but otherwise think he should be muted to improve the scene.
No. Even though it could be an interesting take on this scene to remove the background roaring altogether, it shouldn't be in Revisited (perhaps for another edit though). It should be left as it was originally with the roaring, up until the part when Luke cuts off its arm (where I'm hopeful with Ady's new Wampa, at the end we'll get a satisfying full-view glimpse (like in the SE) of the Wampa roaring in pain.
Btw, with Ady's new Wampa costume, I wonder if he'll decide to design it's head/body based on the SE edition or like the hand-puppet (original) version. Between the two, imho, the SE version looks better and more fierce.
I think he said hand puppet mac but don't quote me on that.
Thanks fpr the feedback yeah I messed up the line veers says after the conversation. via hologram "start your landing when ready" It was not my suggestion though but I thought It was a good idea perhaps.
As doubleofive said it's so easy to lose things on here amongst posts so that list is going back about 7 months or something
anyway I realised I got the wrong line because I just watched the battle of Hoth to observe the command center scenes.
In ESB the command center differs from ANH in that there is no comms chatter from the pilots audible from the room where as all can hear in the battle of Yavin.
I think monroville brought this up so I think it's perhaps worth taking note of but I am not sure if he meant this or within cockpit comms chatter???
Anyway like it or not they are only suggestions and I thought it was good to compile what I could remember being discussed.
I'm really hoping he bases it off the original costume. Silver sphere eyes and all.
It'd make sense that he'd base it on the original puppet, since that was the first and original view on it. But I really did like what the SE did by giving it a (seemingly) more burly body and face with tusks. Perhaps he might do a hybrid between the two.
Ever get that strange feeling of nostalgia for pg261?
The wampa is being based off the puppet. I never liked the special edition version. Out of the 4 versions of the wampa, the puppet looks the best by far. It doesn't look like it could be a guy in a suit, thanks to the flatness of the head.
Puppet:
Ol' sad eyes
wampa from deleted scenes
and the Special Edition fat head version.
yeah I like the puppet too (as was Yoda the best version in ESB), though the "muppet show" that is ROTJ isn't anymore my favorite ;-)
did a blurry closeup of my Wampa figure, don't know if it was made after the SE or mashed together ...
Defo agreed the puppet is by far the best one hands down.
Although you say flat head the fur is also matted almost like dreadlocks around his mouth where he has been dribbling most likely I think the fur also plays a big part in the look of it
and the moustache shape is absent
the eyes are also like big black pits which is more scary i think
Looking at those pics... I have to agree now that the puppet version does look better. I think the SE Wampa looked better on film than that pic portrays, but that puppet Wampa in that first pic does look far better and scarier, even more than it did on film... that thing actually looks like it was real and alive, as if someone hunted it and put it on display.
I try to forget about those "ol' sad eyes" and "deleted scenes" Wampas, lol.
Good call on keeping the puppet version, Ady. Are you thinking about adding more prominent tusks on the sides of its head or leaving them off?
And I assume Ady is going to replace that horrible "ol' sad eyes" shot of the Wampa charging Luke in the cave?
Besides the TIE fighters colliding in the asteroid canyon, that's definitely the worst shot in the film.
He confirmed that shot alanfae previously...
But i wonder is that a case of replacing the head and keeping the body or an altogether new shot for that one?
Because that shot of ol sad eyes is the full body suit
.Mac. said:
5. Vaders Light sabre striking the floor when he swings and misses Luke in carbon freezing chamber
There's already a sound. The question is if it needs to be changed or if it stays the same. I'm fine either way if Ady wants to edit this sound or not. For sure though, seeing some sparks, or at least a little flash, would be good..
I made a mockup and posted it at two different points of time in this thread. Once again, here is a link, just to see how it could be.
“Lifes a song you don’t get to rehearse, and every single verse can make it that much worse”
With his Yeti fixation Ady must be the Great Intelligence.
Ronster and Doubleofive have a valid point.
This thread has been around for almost 6 years. There is so much stuff and so much time has passed that people are suggesting things that have already been decided or stuff that we know Ady will not do.
Lets face it, Ady has decided on 99% of things. This edit will be very close to the theatrical release. So now we just have to wait to see the final product and then make our critiques.
Mac however.... Made a great suggestion. Adding out of focus insects and bugs flying around dagobah.
I had a great visual in my mind of the scene with Artoo and Luke in the camp scene before they meet yoda. Ady could add a bunch of bugs swarming around that red/yellow glowing power generator Luke plugs artoo into for power.
Subtle... But a nice touch to add to the swampy feel. Ady could add out of focus bugs to a few areas around dagobah.
Just an idea...
Mattcion
I have to say I really like that idea..... Although it is a small touch... It adds a massive amount of realism.
Insects drawn to a light source on dagobah were definitely absent on set because of course it's not real but something like that improves believeability 10 fold.
Although you modified macs original suggestion i'll just say well done to the pair of you and i think it's a good idea.
I hope Ady stamps this approved because it is a nice unintrusive touch.
Matticon said:
I had a great visual in my mind of the scene with Artoo and Luke in the camp scene before they meet yoda. Ady could add a bunch of bugs swarming around that red/yellow glowing power generator Luke plugs artoo into for power.
That's a great idea! Wouldn't be hard to do and would really enhance the environment.
Love the bug idea!
Seems like a cool little touch AdY would like as well...who knows maybe he's already thought of it.
Hey guys, I have not been here in a while and as you can imagine, I have missed quite a bit. What is the status of the fan edit as of now?