Info: A mysterious 1997 SE capture with no pink shift...

Today I was joking with my new upscaling script, I found an old test capture file, and I said myself “Why not? Let’s test it too!”.

After I finished, I noted that it could be a 1997 SE capture… “it can’t be, it has no pink shift, it SHOULD be a OT capture!”… as I deleted all my SE and OT captures (sigh!) I played my own OT project, but something was wrong… apart different color grading, cropping were different… “can it be REALLY a SE capture?”

So, I managed to make a direct comparison, and here you are the screenshot:

think that when I made my project, I did it comparing it frame by frame with the GKAR version, and mine was waaay less pink than it…

So, I wonder, how is it possible? Sherlock Holmes should come to solve this mistery… (^^,)

Here you are some facts:

1. the test capture was captured in RGB, using DScaler instead VirtualDub, and is PAL
2. I captured all the laserdiscs I used for my project with VirtualDub, HuffYUV, all of them are PAL
3. I don’t remember which laserdisc I used for the test capture…
4. …and which laserdisc player - maybe a different one than what I used for the projects, as I have several
5. I usually left capture level settings (brightness, contrast etc.) at default - not sure 100%, but around 99%…

and some speculation about them:

1. I don’t think capturing in RGB should make some difference, but I strongly suppose that using DScaler instead VirtualDub could
2. or could be the HuffYUV fault… maybe VirtualDub’s wrong settings, but I can’t suppose which one could lead to such results
3. it doesn’t matter which laserdisc I used, as for my project I used EVERY PAL SW laserdisc I have… all of them!
4. but, probably, not every combination of laserdisc/laserdisc player… and, I should admit is it possible I used a DVD recorder as comb filter for that test (that I have not used with my projects…), but is not probable, as I did DVD recorder tests after the test capture card!
5. I’m almost sure even if I touched settings, it will be not possible to completely defeat pink shift…

Well, if I will ever find the cause of the really good results of the test capture, and if I will be able to repeat it, then I could really really think to remake the 1997 SE project based on laserdisc - even if it seems there is no interest in it…

Problem partially solved... I managed to recapture the same scenes, both from the NTSC and PAL UK SE... I've done the NTSC using the level settings "as is", and, even if the pink is visible, is still lower than the SET [ruLes]; then I lowered the saturation bar from 64 to 40 before capture the PAL, and result are much similar to the test capture. Below, PAL, NTSC, enanched mix.

Maybe I'm forced to redo the 1997 SE project... you could donwload the clip if you want; you could find it in this post where I'll continue to test laserdisc captures and upscales.

I've had a similar result once before on a very old LD cap of the US SE LD. That was IIRC on an old Pioneer V-2200 though a miniDV deck as a passthrough.  When I saw the old captures they had no pink shift in the Mos Eisley sequence (easiest big offender). Some of the SE VHS tapes also seem to lack in the pink shift from time to time.

I was under the impression that it was only ANH that suffered this issue.