Mrebo said:
luckydube56 said:
But ignoring their age would be to ignore the obvious. That in itself would be a disservice to fans. There was nothing more ridiculous than seeing Yoda in the prequels fighting Count Dooku (spelling?).
And at the same time, anyone thinking their role in this film would be to sit in the background and give counsel on occasion is ignoring the obvious signs. They're being asked to get in shape so they can go on the adventures themselves. And in doing so they will realize they can no longer be tip of the spear.
For those resistant to the idea, I've got more bad news, the Millenium Falcon is going to be really old too and breaking down even more than it was before.
And if the rumoured title is indeed "A New Dawn", it just reinforces my idea it will be about turning the reigns over to more physically capable heroes.
Nobody advocates hiding their ages and of course they are making new/younger characters the main focus. The only objection is to making a whole joke out of the thing or making a constant or overt point.
Obi Wan said, "I'm getting too old for this sort of thing." It wasn't supposed to be funny; it wasn't funny. It was a simple statement of truth that wasn't harped on. And he continued on his merry way. Yoda surely showed his age but it wasn't the focus, except for when he was on his deathbed.
What you're saying about the new storyline is surely basically right. It's the comedy and overt recognition of age (as if they've suddenly discovered it when the cameras turned on for E7) you're raising that is objectionable.
Think of King Theoden riding out to war. We didn't need him pointing out how old he is or questions raised about his fighting ability. The audience surely understood as an older man he wouldn't have the strength of a younger man. That is how you handle it. Nobody has suggested hiding their ages or that we believe they are the main focus, continuing their own personal stories.
Well hold on now mrebo. I'm not suggesting they turn Ep.7 into a comedy. But there will be a sense of nostalgia and I see this next film being much more light hearted than any of the prequels and more light hearted than Empire Strikes Back. It will very much be in the tone of a New Hope which, if you havent guessed, is my favorite movie. Sure there will be poignant moments but there will be moments of light heartedness. And that has been a common contradiciton and change of pace in all the Star Wars movies. They certainly dont have to change things up and become Lord of the Rings and be unilaterally serious to the point of being mentally draining.
I'm not suggesting or hoping for the line "I'm too old for this" to repeat itself constantly or even be so overt but the fact they are can be used to comic effect. And there was, whether you admit it or not, a sort of bumbling nature regarding Han Solo. Its that whole out of the fryer and into the frying pan thing I mentioned and that Lucase himself has mentioned and in fact used again to great effect in the Indy series. Han cant fix the Falcon? Han chases a trio of stormtroopers only to run into a battalion of them on the Death Star? Han say "Hey it's me" as he sneaks up on a scout only to step on a twig and get smacked? He is admirably fool hardy and it belies the notion that Han Solo is a one dimensional dark and brooding badass that the fans so obsess themselves with when they talk about who shot first.