Something i'm working on at the moment. Still a lot of cleaning up work to do before the paint job, but this should be ready to film in the next few days. You can see the scale of this thing by the power drill propping up the speeder flap
what is it supposed to be exactly may i ask? or is it supposed to be a surprise?
Theres no need to get in a flap about it ;)
Ronster said:
Theres no need to get in a flap about it ;)
Yes such a drag.
Seriously though that looks amazing Ady. Can't wait to see these last few props you've posted fully painted.
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Ady, my 11 year old son just made a keen observation. If you're going to go back and revisit the Prequel Trilogy, what are you going to do if the Sequel Trilogy also sucks? I mean, what's your overall goal here? To fix ALL Star Wars films or just the first 6? Hell, there's at least 5 coming out by 2019. That's a whole lot of roto work.
Let's look at it this way. The original plan was to fix the simple errors in the OT and hopefully fix the story, acting, and entire feel of the PT which would have fixed the entire Star Wars Saga. But now the reality of the Saga has changed, we're getting 5 movies in 5 years. It took almost 30 years to get that many films previously. My question, and it's one that's bothered me for years while following your work, is this: If the Sequel Trilogy only needs minimal work compared to the OT, would you consider working on those instead? I'm hypothesizing of course that they'll need work (lens flare overload perhaps). So that's my idea, either delay or abandon altogether your plans to fix the OT. I don't truly know if you have some impossibly good ideas that you feel could actually make the OT good movies or just movies that suck less than they do currently. If you can't truly make them into good movies, then what's the point? Seriously, how in the world can you make Hayden Christensen do anything but have a laughable performance? I've seen almost every fan-edit and he sucks ass no matter what .I have little doubt that VII, VIII, IX will be better than I, II, III and will need less work and I'm fairly confident they'll start out as good movies. You won't be working from a broken narrative.
You started this, what?... almost 9 years ago? I've been around for 7 or 8 of those years and the whole time I've never once wanted to see you work on the PT and I'm a huge fan of your work. I instead always wanted a trilogy cut from TCW tv show with an entirely new narrative. I believe you'd be pretty good at something like that.
Just my 2 cents. I hope you at least think about it. We all care about the OT so much more than anything else and once you're finished with those, I just hope you and the ever-expanding crew of yours choose the best way to spend the time, effort, and resources.
If once you start down the dark path... wear comfortable shoes.
Darth Stewie said:
Ady, my 11 year old son just made a keen observation. If you're going to go back and revisit the Prequel Trilogy, what are you going to do if the Sequel Trilogy also sucks? I mean, what's your overall goal here? To fix ALL Star Wars films or just the first 6? Hell, there's at least 5 coming out by 2019. That's a whole lot of roto work.
Let's look at it this way. The original plan was to fix the simple errors in the OT and hopefully fix the story, acting, and entire feel of the PT which would have fixed the entire Star Wars Saga. But now the reality of the Saga has changed, we're getting 5 movies in 5 years. It took almost 30 years to get that many films previously. My question, and it's one that's bothered me for years while following your work, is this: If the Sequel Trilogy only needs minimal work compared to the OT, would you consider working on those instead? I'm hypothesizing of course that they'll need work (lens flare overload perhaps). So that's my idea, either delay or abandon altogether your plans to fix the OT. I don't truly know if you have some impossibly good ideas that you feel could actually make the OT good movies or just movies that suck less than they do currently. If you can't truly make them into good movies, then what's the point? Seriously, how in the world can you make Hayden Christensen do anything but have a laughable performance? I've seen almost every fan-edit and he sucks ass no matter what .I have little doubt that VII, VIII, IX will be better than I, II, III and will need less work and I'm fairly confident they'll start out as good movies. You won't be working from a broken narrative.You started this, what?... almost 9 years ago? I've been around for 7 or 8 of those years and the whole time I've never once wanted to see you work on the PT and I'm a huge fan of your work. I instead always wanted a trilogy cut from TCW tv show with an entirely new narrative. I believe you'd be pretty good at something like that.
Just my 2 cents. I hope you at least think about it. We all care about the OT so much more than anything else and once you're finished with those, I just hope you and the ever-expanding crew of yours choose the best way to spend the time, effort, and resources.
I really hope you meant the PT ;)
But seriously, i won't be touching the new films. Revisited is only going to be a 6 film saga. They are not being made to fit in with the new films either. It would be pointless. I may change something in the PT that then is referenced in the ST, so i would have to wait until every new Star Wars film is completed before i worked on any of the other films and that includes ROTJ. ROTJ will round off the saga. Once thee final film in the Revisited saga is complete then that is it for me. There will be no more edits from me. Hell, by the time i get to finish this saga it will probably be time for me to retire anyway.
AH YES!!!! I did mean the PT!!!! All these acronyms get confusing. It's past 3 am here and I'm too tired.
I'd really love to know if you think that you're ideas for the PT will actually make them into "good" films or films that are more-or-less "tolerable".
If once you start down the dark path... wear comfortable shoes.
adywan said:
Something i'm working on at the moment. Still a lot of cleaning up work to do before the paint job, but this should be ready to film in the next few days. You can see the scale of this thing by the power drill propping up the speeder flap
Damn, your standards are slipping a little, as I was actually hoping that was a 'spraying booth'...
The 'speeder flap' looks terrific however! And I'm looking forward to seeing it in motion eventually. ;)
adywan said:
Darth Stewie said:
Ady, my 11 year old son just made a keen observation. If you're going to go back and revisit the Prequel Trilogy, what are you going to do if the Sequel Trilogy also sucks? I mean, what's your overall goal here? To fix ALL Star Wars films or just the first 6? Hell, there's at least 5 coming out by 2019. That's a whole lot of roto work.
Let's look at it this way. The original plan was to fix the simple errors in the OT and hopefully fix the story, acting, and entire feel of the PT which would have fixed the entire Star Wars Saga. But now the reality of the Saga has changed, we're getting 5 movies in 5 years. It took almost 30 years to get that many films previously. My question, and it's one that's bothered me for years while following your work, is this: If the Sequel Trilogy only needs minimal work compared to the OT, would you consider working on those instead? I'm hypothesizing of course that they'll need work (lens flare overload perhaps). So that's my idea, either delay or abandon altogether your plans to fix the OT. I don't truly know if you have some impossibly good ideas that you feel could actually make the OT good movies or just movies that suck less than they do currently. If you can't truly make them into good movies, then what's the point? Seriously, how in the world can you make Hayden Christensen do anything but have a laughable performance? I've seen almost every fan-edit and he sucks ass no matter what .I have little doubt that VII, VIII, IX will be better than I, II, III and will need less work and I'm fairly confident they'll start out as good movies. You won't be working from a broken narrative.You started this, what?... almost 9 years ago? I've been around for 7 or 8 of those years and the whole time I've never once wanted to see you work on the PT and I'm a huge fan of your work. I instead always wanted a trilogy cut from TCW tv show with an entirely new narrative. I believe you'd be pretty good at something like that.
Just my 2 cents. I hope you at least think about it. We all care about the OT so much more than anything else and once you're finished with those, I just hope you and the ever-expanding crew of yours choose the best way to spend the time, effort, and resources.
I really hope you meant the PT ;)
But seriously, i won't be touching the new films. Revisited is only going to be a 6 film saga. They are not being made to fit in with the new films either. It would be pointless. I may change something in the PT that then is referenced in the ST, so i would have to wait until every new Star Wars film is completed before i worked on any of the other films and that includes ROTJ. ROTJ will round off the saga. Once thee final film in the Revisited saga is complete then that is it for me. There will be no more edits from me. Hell, by the time i get to finish this saga it will probably be time for me to retire anyway.
However, the new SW movies that aren't labeled as episodes, the spinoffs, could be a good source for your PT:R in case you need any more footage. I think that given the extense lapse until PT:R is out (let alone ROTJ:R), it would be convenient to keep an eye on those hypothetical movies.
To heck with worrying about making he Revised saga match the ST... If the ST movies are going to be worth a dry fart in a hurricane, Abrams should wait until the Revised Saga is finished and base his lens-flarey schlock on them.
^That's funny, but what if Abrams actually does know about Revisited? It's not hard to believe honestly, his buddy Michael Giacchino has seen ANHR.
Pegg has seen Harmy's editions so I wouldn't be surprised to find out he has seen Ady's as well.
Since the discussion has come up, I was wandering Adywan if you would consider the possibility of completely redubbing over certain characters in the PT to a) allow for better performances and b) to serve the new plot revisions you will no doubt make.
I have no doubts about ady can bring fourth a much better Ot overall this is not a concern that i honestly do not have.
But when it comes to the prequals i start to feel anxiety towards what i know is capable and the source material that there is to work with.
Trying to make 3 pretty horrendous prequals good or even amazing feels like a very tall order.... But i can see the potential is there only when making it a cartoon.
If the footage were made to be cartoon then the possibilities really would be limitless without taking anything away from what is kept.
At the moment this is the only way i can see a prequal trilogy being good.... Of all the edits and snippets i have seen of preaual trilogy edits.... It comes nowhere close to what it should have been.
Although some may feel a cartoon prequal would be a relegation i really can not see any other course of action that could possibly allow for extreme changes like in the form of remenants of the source material that will allow for these movies to be overwritten and if you like forgotten.
But if you like the prequals sorry but there really needs to be some huge radically different way of dealing with this that allows for big creative ideas to massively change bothh story and characters and their acting.
Forget about models of ships or lasers the repair needed is so much more complex
Can we please keep the PT talk out of this thread? It's already cluttered with unrelated stuff as it is.
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Really cool to see you will be doing some new shoots with the Snowspeeder flaps Ady! Any chance we can see of a pic or two of the rebel base model?
Adywan revisted the OT in a way that I never could have foreseen. I've yet to see anyone in the fanediting community plan and execute such an ambitious series of SW "special editions" with such quality and skill. So, just because we can't imagine the PT as good films doesn't make it a fact. It stands to reason that if adywan didn't believe it was possible, he wouldn't do it, and 99.9999% of the time ady is right. :)
Bingowings said:
Pegg has seen Harmy's editions so I wouldn't be surprised to find out he has seen Ady's as well.
Huh. Pegg comes across as a pretty pasionate SW fanboy... Back in the day, George Harrison threw gobs of money at Monty Python simply because he wanted to see The Life of Brian get made.
If I was a rich guy like Pegg I'd happily be donating HOWEVER many big bags of cash it takes to see this project through! Anyone have his number?
Hey, Ady, if you think the PT is trash, then why not just do the OT, instead? But why bother working on something that's already good, anyway? I mean, if any movie needs fixing, it's one of the Prequels. That's the real challenge, and one that everybody is only interested in seeing done. Hence the inspiration for so many fanedits across the net.
fgqb#19nyj said:
Hey, Ady, if you think the PT is trash, then why not just do the OT, instead? But why bother working on something that's already good, anyway? I mean, if any movie needs fixing, it's one of the Prequels. That's the real challenge, and one that everybody is only interested in seeing done. Hence the inspiration for so many fanedits across the net.
The OT certainly *used* to be good, but we've never been given a proper high quality DVD/BLU-RAY release of any of it as it used to be...and the subsequent 'Special Editions' have each been sullied with some pretty poor editing choices/changes over the years, and are no longer so good.
So I for one am looking forward to seeing all three of the existing OT movies being given such a rigorous overhaul by adywan, with so many attentive fixes along the way. And some of his early intentions for 'ROTJ:R' already sound intriguing. He's doing these primarily for his *own* satisfaction at the end of the day, so that's why he's doing these in the first place - and the current versions are still there for anyone that prefers sticking with those. Me, I'll be watching the 'Revisited' versions in future.
As far as the 'prequels' go, not everyone will be interested in seeing those 'Revisited', no matter how adywan goes about playing around with them...because there's just *so many* poorly written and performed moments throughout each of them, unfortunately.
And yet, there's *so many* different ways to alter them to improve things a little, so I'll certainly be one of the many interested to see how he chooses to personally alter things for himself, when the time comes.
Now 'prequel' talk...begone for now!
ImperialFighter said:
fgqb#19nyj said:
Hey, Ady, if you think the PT is trash, then why not just do the OT, instead? But why bother working on something that's already good, anyway? I mean, if any movie needs fixing, it's one of the Prequels. That's the real challenge, and one that everybody is only interested in seeing done. Hence the inspiration for so many fanedits across the net.
The OT certainly *used* to be good, but we've never been given a proper high quality DVD/BLU-RAY release of any of it as it used to be...and the subsequent 'Special Editions' have each been sullied with some pretty poor editing choices/changes over the years, and are no longer so good.
So I for one am looking forward to seeing all three of the existing OT movies being given such a rigorous overhaul by adywan, with so many attentive fixes along the way. And some of his early intentions for 'ROTJ:R' already sound intriguing. He's doing these primarily for his *own* satisfaction at the end of the day, so that's why he's doing these in the first place - and the current versions are still there for anyone that prefers sticking with those. Me, I'll be watching the 'Revisited' versions in future.
As far as the 'prequels' go, not everyone will be interested in seeing those 'Revisited', no matter how adywan goes about playing around with them...because there's just *so many* poorly written and performed moments throughout each of them, unfortunately.
And yet, there's *so many* different ways to alter them to improve things a little, so I'll certainly be one of the many interested to see how he chooses to personally alter things for himself, when the time comes.
Now 'prequel' talk...begone for now!
For one thing, he's not doing this just for himself. He's doing it for all to enjoy. Hence the reason why he's taken in fan input and instilling it into his edits. Nobody would go through all this trouble if they weren't. The Revisits are well known across the net and this will be his legacy when it is all said and done.
fgqb#19nyj said:
For one thing, he's not doing this just for himself. He's doing it for all to enjoy. Hence the reason why he's taken in fan input and instilling it into his edits. Nobody would go through all this trouble if they weren't. The Revisits are well known across the net and this will be his legacy when it is all said and done.
Indeed, but I meant this was a personal project for adywan first and foremost, even though he's kindly letting us all join in on the fun along the way - which entails him wanting to improve on the current 'Special Edition' OT rather than anything else first , before eventually having a stab at the rest once that's complete.
Certainly, I'm real glad that he's concentrating on the whole OT first, and leaving the rest till afterwards.
ImperialFighter said:
Certainly, I'm real glad that he's concentrating on the whole OT first, and leaving the rest till afterwards.
ROTJ:R, ANH:R (HD) and I, II & III will all be worked on simultaneously. No word yet on if they will be released all together or one at a time.
fgqb#19nyj said:
For one thing, he's not doing this just for himself. He's doing it for all to enjoy. Hence the reason why he's taken in fan input and instilling it into his edits. Nobody would go through all this trouble if they weren't. The Revisits are well known across the net and this will be his legacy when it is all said and done.
I for one, am grateful that he is generous enough to share his work with all of us. I often wonder how many personal edits of various films exist out there that are not being shared. Hell, even I'm guilty of making a few edits without putting them out there for anyone to see.
Revisited is definitely something worth appreciating on a wider scale though.
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muddyknees2000 said:
ROTJ:R, ANH:R (HD) and I, II & III will all be worked on simultaneously. No word yet on if they will be released all together or one at a time.
I read about the intention to work on I, II & III simultaneously on doubleofive's 'Wordpress' news updates, but I didn't realise that adywan was *also* planning to undertake those at the exact same time as his 'ROTJ:R' and 'ANH:R(HD)' edits too...
Which makes things even more incredible muddyknees, if that's the case!
That's gonna make for a heap of new threads and ideas for us all to follow when that time comes, although I suppose there only needs to be a single one to cover updates/suggestions/'Frink'isms etc. for the I, II & III edits themselves - if that's judged preferable to three separate threads.
Lots to look forward to then, and it'll be a job just to keep up with it all. :)
Ady... I really dig your flaps.